: : Basically, children, states are the product of classs society, capitalism cannot abolish class, thus it cannot abolish the state.
: And you called my post facile!
: McSpotlight: Gee, this is name-calling. Debate...
Very well. Perhaps this would be a preferred response ...
Might it be possible for my betters to lend an ear to my petulant outburst? Armed, in my youthful exuberance, with naught but naked logic, I forge ahead.
States are the resultant response to a violent, avaricious world. They are designed, it is true, to protect those who amass wealth by drawing a percentage of that wealth. They are, in effect, nothing more than a legitimized protection racket. And, in a world full of anarchists and socialists, whose main arguments seems to be that property itself is theft, therefore theft and violence (in the form of terrorism and revolution) is perfectly reasonable, the state is more popular than ever.
Class, however, is not the product of capitalism, except in the sense that the act of producing, being a talent that varies in quality for each individual, naturally introduces inequality of success. Indeed, socialism cannot abolish 'class' except through the most draconian methods; in this case, of course, it is declared something other than socialism, well after the fact. Knowing full well that 'classes' naturally form amogst people, and cleverly using tribalism and group loyalties to foment envy and dissent amongst people, the academic socialist can make quite a comfortable living for himself. Thus, if I strive to accumulate some surplus for myself, I will be assailed not only by the state, but by greedy socialists as well. Between the two, I would think the state provides the best deal, so long as it is not particularly socialist, i.e. that their protection of my property is something more than an empty sham.
No, capitalists would be loath to abolish the state. One might well replace the term 'capitalists' with 'the sane' or 'the law abiding'. One might claim that the shotgun I keep in my house is nothing more than a tool for murder; I would counter that, with so many of the "People's Action Committee" similarly armed, and with their seeming commitment to molest me in my own home, I feel compelled to invest in the maintenance and upkeep of this device. So also, I find the state a most useful means of avoiding the worst socialist claims on my labor, my efforts, my property, etc., and am less than sympathetic to the "glorious revolutionaries" when the Pinkertons are sent out yet again to break up another lawless riot. The support that the Left showed for the "Los Angeles rebellion" pretty much sums up what I consider the truth behind anarchistic and socialist policy. In return, I applaud the United States National Guard for embodying my own response.
And now, with the gracious permission of my "Big Brothers", this infant returns to his 'crib'.