there's such an immense concentration of capital that these people
G: Top tar all rich with the same brush is wrong, to even tar a
majority of them with them same brusg is wrong.
Qx: That could well depend on what kind of brush is being used. They
certainly share the same class interests and collaborate in collective efforts to make sure their policies predominate. Just look at the rosters of people who are involved in the O.E.C.D. and it's
creation the Multilateral Agreements on Investment (M.A.I.). In this
case they tarred themselves and a few activists got the word out about their plans.
G: Also, writing off a millionaire as lucky applies only to
lottery winners and inheritors.
Qx: There is such a thing as being born into the right social
circumstances and being cagey enough that "wealth creation" can be seen as luck if one looks at the surface.However, I don't see much difference betwen robber barons from the last century to nowadays. Russia's quagmire is a case in point. Those millionaires didn't get their because of hardwork but rather they knew how to manipulate and patronize. Do enough of that and you too might be a lucky winner.
G: I'll quote Mark Twain ; "I am a great believer in luck and I find
that harder I work the more I have of it."
Qx: That's a pretty good way of stating it but keep in mind that Twain
was no admirer of the rich and he knew what kind of luck they had.
L : I've heard them make reference to Orwell's, Orwell the Socialist
by the way,
G: Have you read his essay "why I write" - not very socialist in its
Qx: It wasn't meant to be. It's more a recollection of his
intellectual evolution than anything else. Anybody can read it href="http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/write.htm">right here.
G: What your saying about private govts is potentially true, perhaps
this condition of being cyclically oppressed and liberated by and from ruling classes is 'natural'.
Qx: It is the norm under capitalism but I couldn't say that it's a
natural state of being for humanity.
G: There are few communities in history who have lived via other modes
included), perhaps Iceland prior to Norwegian domination
Qx: I'm pretty skeptical about href="http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1931/secF9.html">claims
G: , perhaps Somalia.
Qx: I haven't heard that one. Can this be verified by any cultural
anthroplogists instead of the Cato Institute?
G: The difference is that you seem to think of gun toting powermongers as being business mes, clearly they are not!
Qx: Clarity is in the eye of the beholder and if one researches the href="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/bb960804.htm">global mining
industry long enough there are plenty of gun toting powermongers who are business men in a vivid way. The reasoning is simple enough. If you contain any dissident voices with terror you stand to make a lot
G: Nor can you conveniently create a business in order to then gain
Qx: Why not? Look at the Opium Wars.
G: Its not really that easy to create businesses you know!
Qx: Sure it is. Be confident in your abilities and make sure you have
clientele. By the way, it won't necessarily define you as a capitalist.