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On accountability

Posted by: borg on June 20, 1999 at 14:10:02:

In Reply to: the individual with a weapon is accountable to no one. posted by Lark on June 16, 1999 at 18:05:26:

: : I understand the IRA used to get their *gear* from the KGB.

: Yes I believe the "stickies" did but the "Provos" are more likely to have Yankee support and equipment being the best organised illegal outfit ever they could buy from the arms industry or produce their own, they own dimond mines in africa you know?

I didn't know that. Is this street news or is it
verifiable from another source?

: : I'm always wary of the so-called minions of the state.
: : The state is a concept, just to set the record straight.
: : I've never feared the common criminal for long. He generally
: : *knows* he's wrong.

: Interesting, I differ seeing that the democratic state is, to a degree, accountable and through decentralisation and federalism has the potential to become more democratically accountable, the individual with a weapon is accountable to no one.

...except another individual with a similar weapon.

: That said I'd be happier their was no weapons.

So would I. Until that day, I'd prefer to own one.

Of course, the state will never give up their weapons
will they. This is their ultimate means of control.

: : : That's interesting too, slave state?

: : You tell me.

: No you tell me, as far as I'm aware people are told when to get up, when to work, when to stop, what to read, what to learn, what to get paid, what they're worth by their employers not the state.

That's just about it, except for the last part.

If one believes in the all-wonderful state [the concept--
size is another topic] then one buys that the state
knows best.

If one does not believe such trash, then it's necessary
to look for another way and ditch the dependency concept
inherent therein.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by
menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them
imaginary." -- H. L. Mencken

: : : Thank you McSpotlight for your non-ideological understanding of the situation, even if revolutions require violent struggle as in Spain etc. the creating of Gun Culture to allow for such a struggle as these types clearly advocate creates a culture of premanent paranoia and struggle and soon or later facism emerges from it all and people wonder why....

: : And there's no facism in NI?

: Of course there is, of the specifically ideological variety (Permanent Struggle socially and economically, statism, irrationality, religious commitment to leadership and obediance, racism, anti-semitism etc.) and the rabidly nationalist authoritarian state centralist "Socialists", I'm well aware of it and I wasnt denying that gun culture doesnt exist here. Given the opportunity in a nation not at war with itself or divided as mine is, and I think this is the case in US, I'd rail against "gun love" not in favour.

No matter how much we both may want to see agreement instead
of division, I sure don't see it happening....anywhere.

Secession is running rampant worldwide. Soon to come
to the uS.

I've never loved a gun. It's nothing more than a tool
of protection.

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