- Capitalism and Alternatives -

there you are

Posted by: Gee ( si ) on June 25, 1999 at 10:07:48:

In Reply to: Ongoing... posted by Red Deathy on June 24, 1999 at 16:42:06:

: No, it means that the State and your self interest are co-incident.

Hence it doesnt happen because 'the state' and each individual are nver so congruously co-incident in their self interests.

: So you'd return to barter?

Which becomes currencies as a store of value and means of exchange - whether its gold, cigarettes or grain.

: But our thoughts aren't our own, because they can only be formulated in circumstances that rely upon other people, and in langugae created by other people.

Largely irrelavent. When you think its is unkown to all others, unknowable as their thoughts are unknowable to you. Seperated. As far as you can tell you are the only one thinking - you never know the others' thoughts.

: It means an actual, concretely existing State, which is unversal and accessable to all humanity.

aha, thus I repeat the 'doesnt happen' thing.

: Pollis- city-states,

(I was being obtuse)

: very democratic if you were amle Citizen, best example of a free people from the ancient world

So I have heard, I have not researched it though.

: Only in competition, or when circumstances are adverse, but rather, if we lose at least we all lose, no one can gain by everyone elses loss.

As a principle, given such extreme circumstances as the crashed plane and necessary cannibalism of that particular event you would suggest that its better if all died, rather than some gain survivial because some died?

: :Every year the % gets less (and thos with a vested interest in having people poor move the goalposts of poverty) even if the volume goes up (only because death is not as likely)

: And its the absolute figures that appall the most.

: Last post of the day, I will exercise willpower ;)

Oh but you enjoy these subjects so much - your exercising your individual discriminating values

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