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and to be right I have to?

Posted by: Gee ( si ) on June 30, 1999 at 17:57:54:

In Reply to: You haven't persuaded me of its validity posted by Samuel Day Fassbinder on June 30, 1999 at 15:55:04:

: SDF: So? Ideologues don't try to show that their ideology is ideology -- to them, being an ideologue is as natural as the spring rain.

this is circular, essentially trying to dismiss me by saying "you are blinded to what i am not, therefore you fail to see what I see". It makes any kind of exchange difficult, I do not have to 'cleanse' myself of your perceptions of me prior to becoming valid.

I think the culture of 'my house your house' is fine for those who have it, why expect it to be readily applied elsewhere? Speaking of context , where did this develop?

I am focussing on the issue below, I did look into research and was swamped with 'proof' from every viewpoint to the point where, in all honesty, I simply wont spare the time to sift through it. Look for education organisations on yahoo and theyre all in there, all neatly contradicting eachother.

: :You are also required to teach history, economics and various other 'social' subjects - the content of which is chosen for you not by an association of parents and teachers but by a mixture of pressure groups

: SDF: Composed of parents and teachers.

A Fantasy. you really think that politians personal goals, church leaders, minority leaders, scores of other pressure groups who seek to influence education and yes business leaders have no effect? Or do you imagine that whatever the outcome it is the 'will of the people'?

: : Hardly representative. You also seem to think that an elected representative somehow becomes the voice of 'people as a whole' even when elected by a minority

: SDF: We have majoritarian elections here in the US.

A minority of the voters, a minority as proportion. AHving said that, 51% doesnt make something represeantive of anything more than 51%

: : and presented as a package deal to 'the people'.

: SDF: Which the people are free to accept or reject in part or reject as a whole. There are public hearings on this stuff. Homeschooling laws are quite lenient in the state of California -- lots of people do it.

The I support California, however such laws shouldnt be lenient, ie "you can homeschool if we say you can"

: : No I am an alien. Loyalty - revocable and provisional.

: SDF: Tribal membership: permanent.

Outcasts never happened?

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