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Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Citizens for Mustard Greens, USA ) on July 12, 1999 at 10:18:25:

In Reply to: Get outta here!!! posted by Red Deathy on July 09, 1999 at 12:30:58:

: :Double standard? Go back and read about grassroots democracy, or Murray Bookchin, or Walt Sheasby's stuff on Green Marxism, or something along those lines. Let's avoid the "no true Scotsman" argument -- "No true socialist would support the Green Party"...

: But how could a rational socialist support a reformist platform? Specifically when we know that reforms cannot work, because the market won't allow it.

SDF: Not all Greens support reformist platforms, RD.

: : SDF: "If people choose to remain ignorant, there's fuck-all we can do." -Red Deathy. But what you're asking of them here, is that they be already-enlightened BEFORE you contact them. Absence of presence does not mean presence of absence.

: We do contact them, and tell them their going wrong- my local green councillor teaches William Morris, he knows our platform...their not ignorant, they're just on teh wrong track.

SDF: Have you tried to persuade people by more effective means than by telling them they're wrong?

Or tell me this: at the rate you're telling people they're wrong, the people will have converted to World Socialism and the revolution will happen... when?

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