: : Interesting I've heard the whole Somalia thing raised as "do you want socialism? Because this is what it is!"
: Where was that then? Which context?
A Capitalist debate forum, I dont remember the name sorry, where a conservative was arguing that the stability of society is the result of the existance and cleverness of elites, Somalia has no elites, well, not in the sense in which the conservative was meaning so you have no one respecting each other or property.
Add to that the presumptions that socialism is anti-property in every sense and legitimises theft and violence in the course of acquisition, that socialists themsleves are just power mad bandits etc. etc.
Then there's the anti-libertarian socialist angle as well, I got that put to me even though a lot of libertarian socialists think I'm statist or reformist.