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Overabundance is a lot of malthusian shite

Posted by: Lark on September 01, 1999 at 16:12:23:

In Reply to: If answered, i say it agian! blind ones! posted by Drack on August 31, 1999 at 13:24:06:

: The fact of the matter is, in a Market economy, the hardest workers and the ones with the most drive and ambition are the ones who live well.

So if I'm a really proficient bin man and work myself to death day and daily I'll live as well as the ruthless finacier. Or gambling venture capitalist.

:On the other hand there is the question of the disabled and mobility of recources. In a command type economy all problems would be solved if there was a massive pooling of recources to one central government who spread them equally among the people. The problem there is, where is the work incentive if your recieving what you need with no questions asked... The only way to make a command economy work is by turning people into virtual slaves in order to get them to do whats best for everyone.

Right not many people here infavour of a command economy in the traditional sense the commies think alturism and logic will over throw economics and self interest and the "selfish" socialists like me think a co-op economy with mutual banks and creative keynesianism will improve things but do carry on...

:In one case you might have someone who doesnt want to work.... they do it anyways, half-assed, and recieve the same amount of goods that the workaholic does.

Aye but that happens where I work aswell.

:In a market economy the one who works succeeds which seems like an ideal condition except in 3rd world countries there is an overabundance of population wich leads to overabundance of pay because of overfilling of job placement.

Overabundance is a lot of malthusian shite if you ask me and I could work as hard as hell stacking shelves as I now do and I would succeed, now if I was willing to be manipulative, machavellian and driven by greed I could do better and if I choose to sacrifice the social aspect of my life to the economic and political aspects I could do well to but the hell if it'd actually improve my life.

:if there were a way to distribute wealth among a smaller group of people in a certain area then that would be ideal.

What wealth? It's a concept it's made up! This invisible hand of the market business is irrational it's religious.

:But in order to do that one must space the people exactly which also is impossible because some land is desert, some land is ice. that would mean you would have to adhere to the needs of the people as far as climate and such and there would obviously be problems there due to a certain group of people wanting to inhabit land that is in scarce supply... figure out the answers to all of these problems and more and youve got yourself a nice number of semi-happy non-full potential robots inhabiting this rock we call earth.

Why do you believe this to be true all this?

: Im only 17 years old but there are certain things that are hard not to see when there are a whole bunch of politically driven blind men pushing their weight around in order to satisfy a small group of rich pricks who think they know it all.

Very true but it doesnt appear that your a socialist to me.

: Drack........ E-mail me if you want to debate this sometime

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