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Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist party, UK ) on September 06, 1999 at 14:10:40:

In Reply to: ascribe horror and win the ideology war posted by Gee on September 06, 1999 at 13:09:06:

: So poisoning the word 'capitalism' by ascribing various fallacies and distinctly un-private horrors to it prior to a person considering its actual meaning gives an edge in an argument.

Perhas, but we can show this:
1:The free market/enterprise is based on the assumption of each following their own self interest.
2:It can be demonstrably shown that the state is a product of the self interest of a tiny rich elite. Thus such a state is inevitable under any system of self-interest.
3:It can be reasonably demonstrated that recourse violence is in the strict self-interest of people at specific times, an effent exacerbated by competition for resources.
4:I refer the hnourable gentlemen to debates passim regarding private security.

The ent result is to show how war is more or less inevitable, unless oyu beleive in some abstract utopian version of morality, that says people won't act in their self interest, and will always follow morals over economics.

And indeed, the obverse is true, hence gee talks about power grabbers and the use of violence without showing a clear material basis to provoke such actions under socialistic condition.

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