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a 'representative' elite.

Posted by: Gee ( si ) on September 29, 1999 at 14:26:35:

In Reply to: Who do you think wil do the 'requiring'? posted by Stoller on September 29, 1999 at 14:04:36:

: No, a dictatorship of the proletariat, once they are prepared to take the power presently held by the bourgeois---which is to say the great majority of people (the working class). Today we live under the relatively inconspicuous but nevertheless very real dictatorship of the minority bourgeois. Fascism, on the other hand, is the arbitrary rule of an elite that does not clearly represent any class.

Which is what previous attempts at 'proletariat' revolution have become. Shall we wait forever until the sudden simoultaneous rising of virtually every human on the planet? I think we are more likely to see vangaurdism and consequent despotism.

: After the bourgeois has been eradicated, then the control in society would come from society, that is to say the control would be democratic.

A thing being 'democratic' gains no automatic moral or practical advantage. being forced what to do by one master or by a mob is the same in effect. There is no change in the status quo, only in the players.

: This inconspicuous control belongs to the bourgeoisie in the form of the 'free market.' That is what Marxists and other progressives challenge.

Hugely disparate concepts of what 'control' entails.

: By the way, ever read Plato's Republic? The imposition of a firm social division of labor was the very first condition that created his Republic---a society characterized by militarism, thought control, eugenics, in short: fascism.

Ever read Aristotle. Much better

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