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leaf on the breeze

Posted by: Gee ( si ) on October 25, 1999 at 16:54:12:

In Reply to: So you've changed your views? posted by Lark on October 25, 1999 at 15:32:52:

: So Keynes, Hobson, Hobhouse, T.H. Green, T.H. Marshall, John Rawls what are these self-proclaimed liberals?

Not the same as liberals JS Mill and Locke. Accept it Lark - the term 'neo-liberal' is essentially meaningless.

: The facts are Gee that I've done this in the past and probubly will in the future, like I said I dont think you'd just go along with the system of China or Cuba uncritically if it was established in the US so why suggest that it's the most logical thing for me to do?

You'd choose, within your means to do so. If where I lived became like China I'd try very hard to leave it - knowing that if a vast majority were sanctioning the change then I alone chould not change it. That you have done this 'helping others' before (what was that then? out of interest) is fine - youve chosen it as your best use of time from the alternatives at the time. Living in the west, in anything, creates more opportunities to go help people - if only because there tends to be more wealth around.

: Really? That would be like me saying to a capitalist in Cuba or China why arent you Capitalist? Dont suggest that there arent very real constraints.

were talking about going out and helping folk - there arent many constrainsts in the west - a quick review of the appropriate literature shows up hundreds of opportunities to go to places abroad and at home to be of help to others - the only constraint is your need for food and shelter, mostly provided in these cases. Even if you had to work most poeple can earn enough to place them safe from lack of food & shelter and still have enough hours a week and at weekends to be out there helping others.

So why isnt everyone doing that?

: Lost it here Gee

so I can see. Refusing to acknowledge your role in choosing from alternatives is rather sad.

Your not a leaf on the breeze.

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