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Why, thank you and a hat tip sir.

Posted by: Frenchy on October 31, 1999 at 17:53:01:

In Reply to: trotskyists are leninists... posted by Red Deathy on October 29, 1999 at 12:01:43:

: : By the way, were there more then one Trotskyite group? Were there policies different? (Hold on here! Don't all communists hew to Marx?) Why did you delete the part about 30,000 dead?

: Ever seen life of Brian? thats trotskyists- they split first in 1940 - led by Cannon in the US (IIRC), over the issue of Russia- degenerate workers state? bureaucratic collectivist state? State capitalist? Each demanding a different position on the 'unconditional defence of russia' policy- over here we have some 5 trot groups I could name, Socialist Workers Party (Tonmy Cliff), Marxist party, Socialist Equality Party (Both ex- Workers Revolutionary Party, and claiming to be the official Committee For the Fourth International Branches- healyite Splinters), Alliance for Workers Liberty, Socialist Appeal (Ted Grant), and 'Socialist Party' formerly known as Millitant, but they can't stand at elections as Socialist Party coz that was our name first (we aren't trots).

: Trotskyism is a sub-sect of Leninism (at least they pay lip-service to Lenin).

Let me ask you this then. What is the basic thing that seperates a Trotskyite from a Leninist?
The reason I ask is because the other day I happened to be sauntering about the U.C. Berkeley campus and stumbled across a couple of middle aged Marxists doing their monthly duty and handing out pamphlets and broad sheets supporting Communism. I asked them the same question and they more or less denied that there was any real difference, that it was the idea of actually putting Marxist ideas into practice that made one a Marxist.
So I just don't know. Some Communists say there is a difference and others say there is no difference.
Sort of confusing, no?

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