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This means these rights end when the government cannot provide for all.

Posted by: DonS ( USA ) on November 03, 1999 at 13:42:00:

In Reply to: When world's collide posted by bill on November 01, 1999 at 14:15:20:

: I, as new owner of a watershed, have decided to divert some streams to my pool and golf course. The "peasant" farmers in the valley below object. Do I have a right to withold my water from them?

: I will be happy to grant exclusive rights to the individual - so long as that individual lives as a hermit out of harms way.

: In a culture that is not barbarian, economic rights are readily granted to children, the sick, and the infirm. (Freedom from want) In a more enlightened culture, these economic rights would extend to guaranteed shelter and employment at a liveable wage.

Don: And these rights must be provided by action by the government. This means these rights end when the government cannot provide for all. So these rights aren't real rights, but really are a sort of privledge. Further, these rights must be based upon some form of taxation, ie., taking from others, by force if necessary. These rights imply force.

: Get it through your head. We live in a class society.

Don: That doesn't seem to be the case in my part of the US. People move from poor to rich (and visa versa) quickly. I do not see any fixed class.

:It is inevitable that values of liberty and freedom held by each class will collide.

Don: Of course, that isn't true.

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