: : In a culture that is not barbarian, economic rights are readily granted to children, the sick, and the infirm. (Freedom from want) In a more enlightened culture, these economic rights would extend to guaranteed shelter and employment at a liveable wage.
: Don: And these rights must be provided by action by the government. This means these rights end when the government cannot provide for all.
The right is defined and determined by a people who decide that right.
:So these rights aren't real rights, but really are a sort of privledge.
Privilege implies exception, ie, not available to all.
:Further, these rights must be based upon some form of taxation, ie., taking from others, by force if necessary. These rights imply force.
Force is implied in the implimentation of rights. This applies to ALL rights. ESPECIALLY Property Rights.
: : Get it through your head. We live in a class society.
: Don: That doesn't seem to be the case in my part of the US. People move from poor to rich (and visa versa) quickly. I do not see any fixed class.
: :It is inevitable that values of liberty and freedom held by each class will collide.
: Don: Of course, that isn't true.