: Secondly, value is distinct from price, we can always buy and sell above or below value: indeed, according to Marx
So we cant ever sit donw and calculate the extent to which 'exploitation' is supposedly taking place because you would be involving unrelated desires.
The desire of the customer for the product v
The desire for the entreprenuer for the means of producing it.
Each translating into its own only broadly related exchange values.
'value' in Marx is incalculable too, some broad description of 'people using things' as suggested by SDF doesnt really inform.