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Posted by: bill on November 09, 1999 at 00:23:41:

In Reply to: here are some points. posted by Gee on November 08, 1999 at 10:43:01:

:Employment never has been '100%' except during the days when a mans life was just an animal struggle for survival.

It wasn't '100%' for the Hunter-Gatherers either. Only in their case it was a matter of choice!

:Look at how other people were exlcuded - by caste in India, by color of skin etc. consuider that the exclusion is majority driven - that races, castes and the unemployed only remain excluded due to the sanction of the great many (in, respectively; being racist, believing in caste systems, in personal economic choices (ie not trading with
nor contributing toward 'the poor')

Were the Untouchables included in that "majority" decision? Is their anything wrong in providing a Constitutional Bill of Rights?

: Consider the historical evidence of what happens when countries offer generous welfare schemes, and think of why countries like Holland, germany, britain and Sweden are having to reduce welfare now - with the support of their majorities.

Well, maybe not Sweden-

From a recent NY Times artical:

"STOCKHOLM/New York Times -- At a time when world leaders are
fascinated by the United States' economic success and its credo of
less government and low taxes, Sweden seems to be defying gravity.

This is still, after all, a country where government consumes nearly
60 percent of the national economy, far above the 32 percent share in
the United States. Taxes and wages are among the highest in the
world. Dismissing a sluggish worker is, in nearly all cases, legally

And the Swedes are proud of it. When Prime Minister Goran Persson
introduced his budget plans in mid-September, he promised that
"Sweden will consolidate its position as a leading welfare nation."
He even pledged to create another entitlement: the right of every
person who turns 65 to retain a personal assistant.

Yet this largely unreconstructed welfare state is one of Europe's
most vibrant economies. And after nearly three decades of
sluggishness in which the output per person slumped from the third-
highest in the world to 18th, just behind Italy, the Swedish economy
is in the midst of a powerful transformation."

(I know - picky, picky)

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