: > If I stole $20 from you and gave you $ .20 and called it "charity", am I
: > doing you a service? If I never stole the $20 from you in the first place,
: > you wouldn't need a handout, would you?
: Mike you arguement rides on your definition of stealing. There will
: never be a majority that accepts your definition especially if you
: just "fold your arms" and wait. I also assume that you, in fact, do
: consider the corporations "evil" because of your applied label of
: "thief" to them. Your predisposition to consider large corporations
: evil and your affinity for inflamatory rhetoric leaves you difficult
: to talk to. In addition, very few of my posts are really seriously
: argued. Instead, a word or phrase is usually picked out as a springboard into
: more rhetoric. Sam seems to admire these qualities
: so you will always have someeone to talk to. Enjoy yourselves.
And yet you don't define stealing, or answer the question above (or very many asked of you. You do exactly as you ascribe to me, springboarding on a phrase (or whether or not a proper name is capitalised) to avoid any debate.
So, yes, my argument does hinge on how I define stealing, and I have defined it so many times, all you need to do is read any one of my posts.
I don't recall saying that large corporations were evil; I HAVE, however, described them as:
Unnecessary, unjust, beyond democratic control, and serving of the idle rich. I have advocated revocation of some charters, re-writing of others, and the elimination of that most un-christian of charactaristics, the profit motive. I have pointed out that their perpetuation results in stratification of people, rather than uniting people. We have a served class and a serving class. (and every time I point out anything uncomfortable to you you lash out. Give a re-read to the exchanges we've had over the last six months, and see who avoids debate and see who "runs, ducks, dodges, hides"... I'm here, Stu, debate me.)
And if you won't listen to me, try:
You know the commandments, but you lack one thing. Go sell everything you have give everything to the poor. (Mark 10:18-20)
Do not lay up for yourself treasure from the earth, where moth and rust consume, and thieves break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there will be your heart also. Matthew 6:19-21
No one can serve two masters.... you cannot serve God and mammon. Matthew 6:24
Stop defending a system based on the opposite of these directives!
Mike, the Everett Citizen
(still waiting for that e-mail and directions...)