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Really?

Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Citizens for Mustard Greens, USA ) on March 10, 1999 at 16:48:47:

In Reply to: My name is Doc, and I am ... a capitalist. (ohh!) posted by DrCruel on March 10, 1999 at 16:27:50:

SDF: Uh, I had no intention of infringing upon your right to call yourself a capitalist, I just thought you might want to make use of a distinction between people who call themselves capitalists and people who actually employ others to make a profit. If you wish to call everyone who subscribes to pro-capitalist ideology a "capitalist" without regard to their relation to capital (defined, basically, as the material infrastructure used by capitalists to turn a profit: buildings, machines, transportation, markets, inventories, security personnel, etc.), well, that's your business.

: By investing. Examples:

: I employ a government to exercise my international interests. I invest time and money to ensure that my government is successful. This is one reason why I protested against the Sandanistas.

SDF: Does your "employment" of the government net you, personally, a monetary profit?

: I maintain a small savings, and lend money out to friends that might use it to improve their lot, and who are dependable enough to pay it back. I have suffered a net monetary loss, but have achieved some significant success in my aims. Those friends that succeed frequently become significantly more valuable friends, and their dependability becomes a more tangible entity. Those that don't teach me valuable lessons. As Franklin said, 'Lend a friend five dollars and lose it, and you can count the exchange a bargain.' As in, better to learn a five dollar lesson than one far more costly.

SDF: Do you charge interest on your loans?

: I am a purchaser, an avid consumer. I am well aware of the power of my patronage, and shop in such a way as to support those enterprises I value. Of course, I also endeavor to avoid giving aid to any business concern I wish not to flourish. This is why I help the poor people I know, but donate not a dollar to more 'organised' liberal and 'pseudo-socialist' programs.

SDF: To the extent you are a consumer of goods that you use, and not of labor-power you use in order to turn a profit, you are a member of the working class, as defined here


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  • Really DrCruel March 16 1999 (1)
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