TUESDAY 22ND FEBRUARY - Notices and orders of the
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The Lord Clinton-Davis—To ask Her Majesty’s Government what is their response regarding the law of libel to the decision of the European Court of Human Rights of 15th February in the case brought by Ms Helen Steel and Mr David Morris.
ECHR: Law of Libel
Lord Clinton-Davis asked Her Majesty's
Government:
What is their response regarding the law of libel to the decision of the
European Court of Human Rights of 15 February in the case brought by Ms
Helen Steel and Mr David Morris.
The Secretary of State for Constitutional Affairs and Lord Chancellor
(Lord Falconer of Thoroton): My Lords, this was an exceptional case
which did result in unfairness. We need to consider the judgment
carefully and, if necessary, to learn lessons. We accept the court's
judgment on legal aid. The law was changed in the Access to Justice Act
1999 and funding can now be made available in defamation cases in
exceptional circumstances. The judgment refers also to the need for the
defendants' means to be taken into account in assessing damages. Given
the usual principles of English law on compensation, which the libel
damages in this case were, we are giving further consideration to the
implications of this most unusual case.
Lord Goodhart: My Lords —
Lord Clinton-Davis: My Lords, I believe that I am entitled to ask
a supplementary question.
Although I appreciate that the Government must have time to consider the
implications of that important judgment, when can we expect a definitive
statement from them on the issue? Secondly, although I appreciate the
circumstances to which my noble and learned friend the Lord Chancellor
alluded concerning the 1999 Act, will he also ensure that the House will
be told if any extension of legal aid to defamation is made? In my view,
it is not enough that that should be done only in extraordinary
circumstances.
Lord Falconer of Thoroton: My Lords, perhaps I may deal with the
second part of the question first. On the basis of the judgment in the
case, we do not intend to extend legal aid generally to defamation cases.
As my noble friend rightly points out, Section 6(8)(b) of the Access to
Justice Act 1999 allows funding in defamation cases in exceptional
circumstances. That was introduced only after the McDonald's libel case
to which the European court judgment refers. We think that that deals
with the problem identified in the McDonald's case. I pay tribute to my
noble friend Lord Clinton-Davis because he was instrumental in including
Section 6(8)(b) in the Bill, with the foresight for which he is famous.
As the first part of the question, I cannot tell when we will complete
our consideration of the judgment, but it will be as soon as possible.
This litigation has now been going on since 1990=97for 15 years. The events
in respect of which the litigation relates occurred in the mid-1980s=9720
years ago. That makes Jarndyce v Jarndyce look like a
fast-track case.
Lord Goodhart: My Lords, will the Government initiate a wider
review of the whole question of the libel laws of this country? England
has some of the most draconian libel laws in the world, which is why it
has become a preferred forum for litigants from all over the world, even
though publication may have been very limited in this country. Would it
not have been better if McDonald's had started from the beginning
by realising that its case had very little hope of success?
Lord Falconer of Thoroton: My Lords, in relation to an overall
review of the libel laws, our first step is to consider the effect of
this judgment. I do not commit myself to an overall review of the libel
laws, but I commit myself to a review of the effect of this judgment. In
the light of that, we will then consider the overall position of the
libel laws. As for who won and who lost in this case, McDonald's won in
the English courts and received =A340,000 damages. It lost in the European
Court of Human Rights. The estimated costs that it spent in winning that
=A340,000 was =A310 million. Draw your own conclusions as to whether it
improved or deteriorated its reputation by doing that.
Lord Borrie: My Lords, would my noble and learned friend care to
say whether the phrase "exceptional circumstances" may set
rather too high a hurdle for obtaining legal aid, because of the need for
equality of arms between two sides in the case and for the court to
receive adequate advice from both sides to reach the right result? Would
he comment?
Lord Falconer of Thoroton: My Lords, the principle on which we
operate in relation to legal aid for defamation is that we do not think
that in the normal case legal aid should be available, because the legal
aid budget is stretched. In the area of civil legal aid, we believe that
matters such as social exclusion, housing, debt problems and family
problems come before financing defamation actions. I therefore think that
the term "exceptional" is right; the barrier should be high
before defamation proceedings are given money. I entirely agree with my
noble friend: in those exceptional cases, one is seeking to achieve
equality of arms between the big battalions and the little person who is
trying to fight a libel action.
Lord Thomas of Gresford: My Lords, is it right that years of court
time should be wasted by a large corporation with access to millions of
pounds for advertising and so on to bring defamation proceedings against
individuals without any resources? Cannot the libel laws be reconsidered
in that regard?
Lord Falconer of Thoroton: My Lords, the question is put in an
impossible way. A company is entitled to have its reputation protected,
like anyone else. Plainly, what went wrong is that a case lasting 313
days in court over two and a half years, the whole proceedings lasting
for 10 years, could not possibly produce a just result.
contact details
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