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DAY 212
KIM MOFFATT, Cross-examined:
1 Q. Yes, but is not the instruction directed at both you, if
2 you are the person doing it, and at the employee, that when
3 the orientation is completed you both have to sign it
4 because there is space for both of you to sign?
5 A. Yes.
6
7 MS. STEEL: The point I am making is, it says: "Tick each item
8 as it is covered. When the orientation is completed, sign
9 and date the bottom of this check list." A crew member who
10 is just starting almost certainly would not know when the
11 orientation was completed and -----
12
13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It depends on you to say, "That is it", as it
14 were?
15 A. Yes. I always go through this part at the end once we
16 have covered everything and it is a checklist for them to
17 tick off as they have understood these things, and anything
18 they do not understand we go over again.
19
20 Q. Who holds this piece of paper as you are going through it,
21 going through the orientation?
22 A. They have a file of -- like, this would be blank and
23 they would have this, like, in a file in front of them, so
24 everything, once it is filled out, would go back into this
25 file and this is the sort back part of it.
26
27 MS. STEEL: It says: "Tick each item as it is covered" rather
28 than "as you understand it".
29 A. I prefer them to understand it than just tick it once I
30 have gone over it. I prefer them to understand it first.
31
32 Q. When do you write in the bits about "Christmas party,
33 etcetera"?
34 A. Just with them.
35
36 Q. If it is up to the crew to decide when they have to tick
37 various parts and where, why is it you need to mark where
38 they need to sign the document?
39 A. Because that is me; I am a bit of a mother like that.
40 I just make it very obvious for them.
41
42 Q. Is it not just the case that you mark the parts they have
43 to sign and when you have finished doing all the ticking
44 you hand it to them and say: "Sign there, there and
45 there"?
46 A. No, that is pathetic.
47
48 MR. MORRIS: You are saying this is a record of what went on,
49 yes, and this is a document that must be filled in by the
50 Company when someone has done the things which you say they
51 should do?
52 A. No. I am saying that once I have gone over the
53 specific areas with them, explaining to them, they tick it
54 and sign it.
55
56 Q. How can anyone tick the initial training section?
57 A. They do not; that is why they have not.
58
59 Q. Why has it a space for ticking?
60 A. Because once they have gone through it -- they do not
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