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                                                                  DAY 214
 
                                                 DAVID ROBERTS, Examined:
 
 
 
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Very well.
     2
     3   MR. RAMPTON:  We do not need to worry about -- have you got the
     4        first sheet open?
     5        A.  Yes, I have, yes.
     6
     7   Q.   The date on the right-hand top corner is 8.11.94.  If you
     8        look -- I am afraid I have not numbered these -- about a
     9        fifth or a quarter of the way up from the bottom, we see
    10        the name "Mr. Beech".  See if you can find that.  The
    11        number is 994464, I think.  Do you see that?  Tell me when
    12        you have found it.
    13        A.  I have got it.
    14
    15   Q.   It is between -- have you got it?
    16        A.  I have got it.
    17
    18   Q.   There is a row of noughts, until you get to "Holiday pay"
    19        and "Employees gross" which is just over half way along.
    20        Do you see?  According to this document, under "Holiday
    21        pay" there is a figure, the precise figure of £59.72?
    22        A.  That is right.
    23
    24   Q.   Mr. Beech's last payroll period ended, I think, on
    25        24th September which is about six weeks maybe before this
    26        payroll period ends.  Can you explain, if this means that
    27        Mr. Beech was, indeed, paid his outstanding holiday pay,
    28        why it is that it does not appear until 8th November,
    29        5th November?
    30        A.  He has actually been paid his holiday pay.  It was
    31         -- all I can assume is that one pay period was missed as
    32        error, or that he was not terminated on the actual Hunter
    33        itself on time.  Therefore, that is the reason for the
    34        delay because it would have waited for another two weeks
    35        after that date for it to come through.
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where do you get that he has actually been
    38        paid his holiday pay?
    39        A.  It is on the "Holiday pay" section.  It is more or less
    40        in the middle.
    41
    42   Q.   Where it says "Holiday pay"?
    43        A.  Yes, if you just trace it down, it says the amount that
    44        has been paid to them.  The bank details are on the
    45        right-hand side, so it would have automatically gone
    46        through into the bank account.
    47
    48   MR. RAMPTON:  That is what I was going to ask you.  You see, you
    49        use the word "automatically".  One can see from the
    50        succeeding sheet that is, in fact, his last entry.  It does 
    51        not appear again.  What happens when a person is terminated 
    52        in this way by the computer?  What happens in respects of 
    53        outstanding pay or anything else?
    54        A.  When the termination is done on the computer itself,
    55        you put in a leaving date and a leaving code.  We have a
    56        list of codes.  There is about 20 different codes.  He was
    57         -- as soon as that code is entered and the information is
    58        stored on the computer, he will then be taken off
    59        automatically from the Hunter, and our payroll department
    60        will -- they look at the code and if he is entitled to his
 
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