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DAY 214
DAVID ROBERTS, Cross-examined:
1 store, if you do not need them in your own store?
2 A. We did need them. We could use them.
3
4 Q. So they were a necessary part of the team, you considered?
5 A. Yes, they were, but they could have been replaced.
6
7 Q. Well, in theory, anybody can be replaced?
8 A. Yes, but they would have been trained up, so when the
9 new restaurants opened up they would have experienced
10 people rather than new people; and I would already have
11 experienced people; therefore, it would not be so hard for
12 me to take on new people.
13
14 Q. Did that mean that you were cutting back on the hours that
15 other crew were working?
16 A. No.
17
18 Q. You were not? So, basically, you were taking these people
19 on because they were needed?
20 A. Yes.
21
22 Q. So you felt you needed 170 on the payroll?
23 A. Yes, that is right.
24
25 Q. Did that include Floor Managers, or is that separate?
26 A. It is everybody together. It is hourly paid employees.
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28 Q. Sorry, actually, it does say "approximately 170 crew
29 members on the payroll".
30 A. Hourly paid. The 170 is not an accurate figure that is
31 worked out according to a set formula. It is a hunch
32 figure.
33
34 Q. A hunch figure?
35 A. Yes.
36
37 Q. Was it a hunch figure that you gave Mr. Khazna when he used
38 to ring you up and say: "How many have you got on your
39 payroll"?
40 A. He did not have to phone me up to ask me how many
41 people I had on the payroll. I would tell him how many
42 people I had working, or he would come into the restaurant
43 and count the people on the schedule.
44
45 Q. He said yesterday -- and you must have heard him, because
46 you were here -- that he used to phone you up and ask you
47 how many people there were on the payroll?
48 A. If he needed to.
49
50 Q. So, was that just a hunch figure that you gave him when he
51 phoned you up?
52 A. Like I said, he did not have to phone me up to ask me
53 how many -----
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Better find out what his evidence is as to
56 whether Mr. Khazna did phone up and, if so, how often. We
57 know what Mr. Khazna said.
58
59 MS. STEEL: OK. (To the witness) Did Mr. Khazna phone you up
60 and ask you that question or not?
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