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DAY 214
DAVID ROBERTS, Cross-examined:
1 MR. MORRIS: Do you agree with Mr. Khazna?
2 A. Sorry?
3
4 Q. Do you agree with Mr. Khazna about what he said about this
5 being one of the methods -----?
6 A. It is not a method that I have used.
7
8 Q. But it would be an indication -- if you wanted to check,
9 this would be a document that would show, would it, when
10 performance reviews were due and what rises people were
11 given?
12 A. It is nothing that I have been instructed to use.
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14 Q. You have seen this kind of document before?
15 A. I have seen it before, yes, but it is not the system
16 that I actually use or I have been instructed to use.
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18 Q. Presumably, the documents, you would verify they are
19 accurate documents?
20 A. I would assume so, yes.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you agree with what Mr. Morris is putting
23 to you, that where it says, "The following rate charges
24 were proposed during the pay period", that the people who
25 are listed thereunder are all people who were eligible
26 during that period for a pay rise?
27 A. I have never looked at that before in that respect, so
28 to me it is new.
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30 Q. Do you know whether that is what it means or not?
31 A. I do not know for a fact. It looks like it is, but
32 I do not know for a fact.
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34 MR. MORRIS: If we look at the two columns under "new regular
35 rate", with the difference, we have -----
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37 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, now Mr. Morris is pursuing what one might
38 call submissions or comments rather than questions, because
39 the witness has said that it might be so; he does not know
40 that it is, and he has never used it for that purpose. So
41 it is not a valuable use of Mr. Roberts' time for him to
42 answer questions about it.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can he really help you if he does not know?
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46 MR. MORRIS: He presumed it was.
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48 MR. RAMPTON: No.
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50 MR. MORRIS: Mr. Rampton is saying what the witness said. Let
51 us check what he said. "It looks like it is, but I do not
52 know for a fact."
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54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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56 MR. MORRIS: (To the witness) if we look at those two columns,
57 I will ask you a general question. I cannot read the names
58 in the left hand side, but, forgetting the starters --
59 because obviously they are on a new rate because they just
60 started that week, or that fortnight -- we have in the
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