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DAY 214
DAVID ROBERTS, Cross-examined:
1 differential 12 people who have got a 5, 10 or 15 pence pay
2 rise; yes?
3 A. Yes.
4
5 Q. Out of 16?
6 A. You said you were not going to include new starters.
7
8 Q. Not counting the new starters, but out of 16 staff, but not
9 starters. So if we go to page 71 -----
10 A. Sorry, can you just hang on a second, please?
11
12 Q. Yes.
13 A. There are only five people who have not changed their
14 rate.
15
16 Q. Does that indicate that -- as far as you can see, if you
17 saw this document when you were at work, you would assume
18 that meant that most people got their pay rise on time?
19 A. It tells me that five people did not. It tells me
20 also, or could tell me, that five people may have had their
21 review done but did not actually earn a pay rise.
22
23 Q. Let us go to page 71. We have here no starters; we have
24 nought out of nine; and we have got the pay rise, on that
25 page; and, over the page, I calculate nought out of -- none
26 of them got a pay rise (this is the non-new starters), but
27 one person got a "0 0". That would be someone who actually
28 scored nought on a pay review; is that correct?
29 A. No. The people whose rate it says "new regular rate
30 3.15", the difference is exactly the same, is that they did
31 not actually get a pay rise. Why it says zero, I do not
32 know.
33
34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You are positively saying that that is what
35 the document -----
36 A. Their rate has not changed.
37
38 Q. Yes, I know. Are you agreeing that that is actually what
39 the document means -- positively agreeing?
40 A. I agree that the top one says that the rate has not
41 changed. Like I said, I have never used this as an
42 indicator as to when somebody is due their performance
43 review.
44
45 MR. MORRIS: Well, did you regularly, you know, the majority of
46 people who had pay reviews, give them a nought pence pay
47 rise?
48 A. Did I?
49
50 Q. When you were doing pay reviews under your management, did
51 you give people nought per cent pay rise most times -- the
52 vast majority of people who had pay reviews?
53 A. I cannot recall every single performance review of
54 every single person, no. Some people would receive -- they
55 would not receive a pay rise, yes.
56
57 Q. But it would not be the majority, would it, who had a
58 performance review, who got nought pence pay rise?
59 A. I do not know whether it was the majority or minority.
60 I do not know the figures.
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