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DAY 214
DAVID ROBERTS, Cross-examined:
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2 Q. Yes. You said: "You can put systems in place whereby the
3 scheduling -- they would not be scheduled to an hour near
4 there, so it could not happen". So, that is 11 o'clock.
5 So why did you not just never schedule any under 18
6 year-old past 11 o'clock?
7 A. When I first got there or later on?
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9 Q. All the time.
10 A. Well, later on they would not be scheduled. After
11 I took over, there is actually a scheduling package,
12 computer package; I put this schedule on to that so they
13 would not be scheduled anyway.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I thought you were pushing at an open door
16 here. I thought it had been accepted by Miss Moffatt and,
17 in fact, by Mr. Taylor that it took him some time before he
18 got enough people to be able to do it the way he wanted
19 to.
20 A. In my statement I say that people were working over.
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22 Q. That is why I asked him about the third sentence in
23 paragraph 7.
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25 MS. STEEL: I know that. The point is that he knew that it was
26 against Company policy and yet he was just carrying on with
27 it.
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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31 THE WITNESS: No, I was -- the people were scheduled until the
32 time before. If I was not there and a Manager insisted on
33 doing that, there is no way I could -- if I am not there,
34 I do not know.
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36 MS. STEEL: You said this morning that you scheduled them until
37 12 o'clock. That is asking for troubling, is it not?
38 A. No, I was not actually asking for trouble.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am sorry, all this is obvious. If you keep
41 asking questions about it, you give the witness an
42 opportunity to back track. My understanding at the moment
43 is that this morning the witness accepted (and Miss Moffatt
44 did as well) that he had to carry on breaking Company
45 policy for a short period of time until he got the figures
46 up. If you want to ask questions so that the witness can
47 reconsider that situation, go ahead.
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49 MS. STEEL: For starters, the witness changed his answer half
50 way through this morning as well, because the initial
51 answer he gave was that he did schedule them until 12.00
52 and then when he thought about it twice he started bringing
53 it back.
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, I do not understand that.
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57 THE WITNESS: No, I said that later on.
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He said "after a while".
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