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     1        anything else?  It works both ways.  There is a lot of
     2        managers who take so much from someone....  I have been
     3        here since end of August and every single manager in this
     4        store has said on more than one occasion that they are
     5        really fed up.  Quite a few managers have transferred to
     6        different stores because they did not like it here.  We had
     7        a guy called Naz, who was OK, but he was slow to pick up
     8        and Sonia did not have the time for him, and she gave him a
     9        lot of hell and he asked for a transfer.  The same thing is
    10        going on there, so he is really unhappy.  But all it takes
    11        is a bit of patience and it will be all right.  But if they
    12        give him non-stop shit all the time he is just going to
    13        pick up and leave eventually.  The store managers take
    14        everything.  They get £10,500, but it has just gone up.
    15        Get a company car if store manager for two years, just gone
    16        down to 18 months.  The car says 'McCar' all over it.  It
    17        is a really excellent experience.  It is very good at
    18        disciplining and getting discipline up.  For crew, for
    19        managers, the constant pressure is good if you can take it,
    20        for the money they pay you, but they have changed.
    21        Employers expect a bit more from you because they know you
    22        have been disciplined at McDonald's.
    23
    24        "The more people you take on, if you took on 6 million
    25        people at the basic rate of £2.06 an hour, is going to
    26        bring your overall average rate down.  It is nice to have
    27        under 18 year olds.  We try to have as many of them as
    28        possible.  We tend to worry more about them leaving than
    29        someone who is a bit older.  We try to keep them on.  If we
    30        can afford to give them an extra 20 pence an hour, it will
    31        still keep the average rate down.
    32
    33        "The very first day, October 1st 1974, the very first store
    34        in Woolwich took £39.41, and look at it now, how many
    35        millions is it making now.  11 per cent out of wages for
    36        pension...(?)  Other perks are food and social life."
    37
    38        Then at the bottom it has in handwritten quotes: "The best
    39        way to get labour down is to put volume up."  I do not know
    40        what that means.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can ask Miss Lamb if she knows whether
    43        that was part of the interview or was added for some other
    44        purpose.
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  Now, the Mark Ryan interview transcript --
    47        I cannot remember what the situation was with the
    48        Mark Ryan.  Is it that we were relying on some of it, or we
    49        had to read it all out, or we agreed to read it all out?
    50        I cannot quite remember. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I suggest you read it all out.  It has 
    53        already been made clear that if there is something you in a
    54        Civil Evidence Act statement which is inconsistent with
    55        part of your case, no point is going to be taken that you
    56        have made it part of your case, so that you were
    57        contradicting yourself.
    58
    59        It is important for me to see the whole lot because, for
    60        instance, when I am assessing the weight to be attached to
 
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