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                                                                  DAY 217
 
                                                     MRS. HOVI, Examined:
 
 
 
     1        explains why the details are different.  I would want to
     2        come to this when we look at the map later.
     3
     4        He also says that there were sterilizers -- he states that
     5        there were sterilizers for the hide puller chains and
     6        pithing rod.  This was not the case while I worked at
     7        Jarrets.  There was no sterilizing for the pithing rod, to
     8        start with.
     9
    10   Q.    Where do you say there is not a sterilizer?
    11        A.  On page number 6, still the same paragraph, number 8.
    12
    13   Q.   Yes.
    14        A.  Mr. Bone says that the previous plan is not including
    15        every single sterilizer.
    16
    17   Q.   I understand that.  What I am most concerned with -- I do
    18        not want to lead you off your course -- if you say there
    19        was not a sterilizer where Mr. Bone's statement says there
    20        was, I would like you to draw my attention to that.
    21        A.  Right, yes.  These are particularly two points -- there
    22        was no sterilizer for the hide puller chains, for the
    23        pithing rod.
    24
    25   Q.   For the hide puller chains?
    26        A.  Yes -- or the pithing rod.
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:  That is at the top of page 7?
    29        A.  Yes -- top of page 6.
    30
    31   Q.   Sorry, page 6.
    32        A.  The pithing rod was kept -- between use, the pithing
    33        rod was kept stuck between water pipes on the wall, next to
    34        the man who did the pithing.  I brought this to
    35        Mr. Bone's -----
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am sorry, take it steadily.  As Mr. Morris
    38        said, if you can watch my pen, it will be helpful.
    39        A.  Sorry.  The hide puller chains -----
    40
    41   Q.   No, I am sorry.  I do not want to get cross with you, but
    42        it is hopeless if you keep going and I am still making a
    43        note.  I am afraid it can be very boring, but I want to get
    44        it down.  (Pause)  Yes.
    45        A.  As far as the sterilizer for the hide puller chains is
    46        concerned, there was no such sterilizer, or, if there was
    47        one or had been one inside the hide room, it was not in use
    48        at the time I was there.  This had been brought to the
    49        attention of the Jarrets at least on two occasions by the
    50        Ministry of Agriculture inspectors, and this was considered 
    51        by them as one of the serious points that might fail 
    52        Jarrets at the next EC inspection.  At this point, there is 
    53        a serious risk for course contamination.
    54
    55        The next paragraph would be paragraph number 9, where
    56        Mr. Bone talks about the separation between dirty and the
    57        clean side of the abattoir, which is one of the ground
    58        principles of abattoir hygiene.  I mentioned in my evidence
    59        last time that the men had to enter the abattoir building
    60        from outside. Their changing rooms were situated in a
 
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