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                                                                  DAY 217
 
                                                     MRS. HOVI, Examined:
 
 
 
     1   Q.   So the plan is not inaccurate?
     2        A.  That is very accurate, yes, but it contradicts
     3        Mr. Bone's statement where he says that the men did not
     4        have to come from outside.
     5
     6   Q.   That may be a matter of argument.  At the moment -- you can
     7        go on to it if need be -- I just want to see where you say
     8        that this new plan does not accurately reflect things as
     9        they were on the ground when you were there in April 1994.
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS:  If I just point to one example, in the fat trimming
    12        section of the map, which is past the inspection on the
    13        line, we come to the fat trimming, and there are four
    14        people, apparently, there.  There are some fat bins in
    15        front of two of the people, can you see, underneath
    16        them ---
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   -- above the words "fat trimming"?  Now, those four people
    20        did not appear on the original map, and we can see there
    21        were only two people there.  That is a difference in terms
    22        of the maps.  I only brought that up as an example of
    23        saying to you:  is the fact that you have not mentioned
    24        other specific things, meaning that you think everything on
    25        the map that is now in front of you, apart from things you
    26        have mentioned, is as it was when you were there or have
    27        there been other changes ---
    28        A.  Basically ---
    29
    30   Q.   -- that you think it is important to bring up?
    31        A. -- I have been thinking about it in terms of the
    32        paragraphs that I have discussed so far, of Mr. Bone's
    33        statement, and I have not referred to the position of the
    34        slaughtermen at all so far.  I will come to that later when
    35        we go through Mr. Bone's statement on that.
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest you do, I suggest you let
    38        Mrs. Hovi continue.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If, when she has got to the end of the
    43        matters which you want to go through in chief, you want to
    44        give her 10 minutes before she is cross-examined to go over
    45        the big map again and see if there are any other
    46        differences between the big map and how she remembers
    47        things in April 1994, I will give you that time.
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:  Right.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Then you can ask her a catch-all question at 
    52        the end about it. 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  Right.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  (To the witness)  Would you like to you on
    57        through the -----
    58        A.  Mr. Bone's statement?
    59
    60   Q.   Mr. Bone's statement, yes.
 
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