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                                                                  DAY 217
 
                                                     MRS. HOVI, Examined:
 
 
 
     1        A.  Yes.
     2
     3   Q.   Yes.
     4        A.  Paragraph 26 on page 13, we are talking about the words
     5        at the bottom of the page, Mr. Bone talks about the hose
     6        pipes and the washing points.  As I said in my statement
     7        before, the carcasses were washed before the inspection.
     8        Between the ------
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I make sure I understand you there?  Are
    11        you saying that all carcasses were washed before the
    12        inspection or just that some were sometimes?
    13        A.  Well, virtually all carcasses, as far as I could see,
    14        all carcasses were washed.  It was a routine.  There was a
    15        man there whose job it was to wash the carcasses -----
    16
    17   Q.   Before inspections?
    18        A.  Before inspection.  Only the -- basically, what they
    19        did wash was the forequarter.  It was after the splitting
    20        saw.  There was another hose pipe between the gut removal
    21        and the splitting saw, and then there was a hose pipe
    22        between splitting saw and inspection point, and these --
    23        both hose pipes were used on a very regular basis.
    24
    25        There was a man who operated them and he washed the
    26        forequarter, basically, and the neck area.  When
    27        I discussed this with Mr. Bob Jarret, he said that it was a
    28        customary requirement, that otherwise there would be too
    29        much blood in the neck meat.
    30
    31   Q.   In the neck?
    32        A.  In the neck meat, yes.  The neck meat.
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:  Just one point here where Mr. Bone says:  "I am not
    35        an expert in matters of science.  Therefore, I am not
    36        qualified to speak about the scientific validity or
    37        otherwise of this practice".  I had not actually noticed
    38        that before.  Your understanding of Mr. Bone is he is not
    39        trained in veterinary matters?
    40        A.  No, as far as I know.
    41
    42   Q.   Right.
    43        A.  So this ------
    44
    45   Q.   In the first page of his statement he says:  "My
    46        responsibilities included maintenance and dealing with the
    47        hygiene matters".  Was that in terms of -- what was his
    48        position related to you?  For example, when he was there
    49        what was your relationship about him?
    50        A.  Well, I found Mr. Bone very helpful.  I had been 
    51        working at Jarrets already for three weeks and a lot of the 
    52        problems that had arisen had already been taken up with the 
    53        Jarrets, and the response on that side was not extremely
    54        helpful.  But Mr. Bone was very -- turned out to be very
    55        considerate of the requirements I had presented.  He
    56        considered them of importance as well, and the first thing
    57        he implemented during his -- the only week that I worked
    58        together with him was fixing all the doors leading to the
    59        front of the hide skin rooms, gut room, fat room and
    60        detained (indecipherable), the lairage rooms to the dirty
 
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