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     2   MR. MORRIS:  I will do a list.
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do a list and fax it to Mrs. Brinley-Codd and
     5        to me, if you would, please.
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     7   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Thursday the 15th is OK.
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     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will put interlocutories on Thursday.  Very
    10        well.
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    12                    Cross-examined by MR. RAMPTON Q.C.
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    14   MR. RAMPTON:  Miss Hovi, do you remember when you were last
    15        here, which was in March of this year (sic), you said
    16        this: "The line speed at Jarrets when I was working there,
    17        they were anything from 45 to 55 an hour.  The recommended
    18        line speed by the Ministry of Agriculture inspectors for
    19        that particular outfit was 40 per hour"; do you remember
    20        saying that?
    21        A.  No, I do not.
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    23   Q.   Would you accept that you did say it?
    24        A.  Yes, I might have said, yes.
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    26   Q.   It was wrong in both respects, was it not?
    27        A.  Well, as I said earlier, the line speeds would often
    28        average up to 45 to 55 animals an hour, because the figures
    29        we saw earlier before lunch, they were just indicative
    30        figures of the amount of animals that had passed within
    31        that hour by the scales; and, as I said, I often had to
    32        regulate the line speed by preventing the man from stunning
    33        because, otherwise, the line speeds would have been even
    34        faster.
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    36   Q.   Would you like to look at those tables again?  Can I ask
    37        you this as a preliminary question:  do you doubt the
    38        integrity of the documents which have been supplied to us
    39        by Jarrets; do you doubt their honesty?
    40        A.  No, not necessarily.  I am just discussing, as the
    41        judge was this morning, about some of the things, and
    42        I find it very difficult to understand why those documents
    43        were not shown to -- why some of the documents were not
    44        shown to me at the time I was working there.
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    46   Q.   That is as maybe.  Can you answer my question directly,
    47        please?  You say you do not necessarily doubt the integrity
    48        or the authenticity of the documents.  What does the word
    49        "necessarily" mean?
    50        A.  Well, I mean that I measured carcass temperatures there 
    51        over a period of three weeks, and the temperatures 
    52        I measured were very different from the ones that they had 
    53        recorded; and I find it very difficult to explain it away
    54        by saying that they were carcasses that came from different
    55        sources; and that point I obviously had to believe what
    56        I saw myself.
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    58   Q.   We might come to that in a moment.  We have got the
    59        originals here, because his Lordship asked us to bring them
    60        to court, and they are here somewhere.  If you are doubting
 
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