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     1        less right; is that right?
     2        A.  Yes.
     3
     4   Q.   How, then, tell me, did you come to say that the line
     5        speeds when you were working there were anything from 45 to
     6        55 an hour?
     7        A.  Because they were.
     8
     9   Q.   They were?
    10        A.  Yes.  All these days are towards the end of my stay at
    11        Jarrets.  These would have been days when I would have been
    12        regulating the line speed, if possible.  I did it on daily
    13        basis, like I told you before.  At the beginning when
    14        I started working there, I found the line speed completely
    15        unacceptable.  As I said in the morning, it is very
    16        difficult on the basis of the animal numbers to calculate
    17        the average speeds.  You had to be there and see what was
    18        happening, how the men pushed the stunning figures up,
    19        forcing the line speeds up.
    20
    21   Q.   This chap who makes these documents, he is the weigh man,
    22        he is actually employed to count the numbers precisely per
    23        hour.
    24        A.  Yes.
    25
    26   Q.   He is more likely to be right than you are, is he not?
    27        A.  Yes, but we have already -- now you have listed about
    28        eight hours within this few days, when I was already
    29        regulating the line speed on a daily basis by stopping the
    30        stunning; you already listed eight hours within which this
    31        line speed was higher than was recommended by the Ministry
    32        of Agriculture.  I found the situation -- from my
    33        professional point of view, the situation was not good.
    34
    35   Q.   Miss Hovi, do not misunderstand me.  It is not an attack on
    36        your professional opinion that I am making; it is an attack
    37        on the reliability of your recollection.  That was evidence
    38        that you gave in March of this year, the end of March, when
    39        you did not have the benefit of any documents to look at.
    40        What I am suggesting is that you exaggerated.  Do you
    41        understand?
    42        A.  Yes.  I do not see how you can say that I exaggerated,
    43        if we have already listed eight hours, what I stated was
    44        happening.
    45
    46   Q.   Was the recommended line speed for that particular outfit
    47        40 per hour at that time?
    48        A.  In what hour?  What hour are we talking about?
    49
    50   Q.   You told us on 30th March 1995 that the recommended line 
    51        speed by the Ministry of Agriculture inspectors for that 
    52        particular outfit (that is to say Jarrets) was 40 per 
    53        hour.  Is that right or is it not right?
    54        A.  I cannot remember.  My recollection now says 35, but it
    55        could have been 40.  I might have remembered better in last
    56        year in March, but they are still working over even at that
    57        limit.  My best recollection probably is to say that they
    58        were working above the recommendations that the Ministry of
    59        Agriculture inspectors had made.
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