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     1        A.  The cow's.
     2
     3   Q.   I thought that must be so.  Can you, just so that we are
     4        clear about this, move over to the gut removal table in the
     5        middle of the page; can you see that?
     6        A.  I had not finished with the .....
     7
     8   Q.   I know you have not; I am not going to stop you at all.  I
     9        am content for you to continue but you see the gut removal
    10        table?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   Somebody has written "head wash" there.  That is why
    14        I raised it.  Do you agree that it must mean hand wash?
    15        A.  Yes, it is a hand wash.
    16
    17   Q.   Continue with your criticism of the accessibility of the
    18        sterilization and washing points, please.
    19        A.  The next point where I would say that there was a
    20        problem was the hiding area, the men who do the hiding.
    21        They use knives to facilitate, to help the hide puller in
    22        case the hide puller starts removing the carcass fat, which
    23        often happens.  They have knives they guide the pulling
    24        process, and they have no access to either hand wash or a
    25        sterilizer.  That point, in general, was a great point of
    26        concern because of the lack of chain sterilization as
    27        well.  You can imagine that their hands were very dirty.
    28
    29        The next point, there was a problem for the man who is
    30        trimming.  We are now moving into the fat trimming area.
    31
    32   Q.   Where are we, sorry?
    33        A.  There was a problem for him.
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Fat trimming area, right over on the right.
    36
    37   MR. RAMPTON:  We have gone miles away, I see.
    38        A.  Yes.  That man there next to the word "trimming" on top
    39        of the carcass wash, the carcass wash platform is perhaps
    40        this high.  The man stands there and he is -- the hand wash
    41        and sterilizing facility is behind him down on the ground
    42        level.  So the man who is on trimming platform, the
    43        trimming platform is just a platform about this height.  He
    44        has access to that sterilizer and hand wash facility.  The
    45        carcass washman does not have access to it.  He does not
    46        use a knife but, obviously, what he would need to sterilize
    47        every now and then is the hose pipe head and wash his
    48        hands.  He has not got access to that either.
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:  I missed what this hide was.  It is not on the plan 
    51         ..... 
    52 
    53   MR. RAMPTON:  The trimming man is a step off the ground.  The
    54        carcass washman is more than a step off.
    55
    56   MS. STEEL:  I just thought it might be useful to have the actual
    57        measurements on the transcript.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I wanted to ask you when we got to a break:
    60        What height were you signalling?  Were you signalling from
 
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