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     1        matter for comment at a later stage if it is a half a
     2        degree over.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have to sort it out in due course and
     5        decide what is significant and, by the same token, I would
     6        not stop you asking her, but it is not really for her to
     7        say whether she accepts this document or that document, is
     8        it?  She can only tell me what her own observations were.
     9
    10   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord, only to this limited extent,
    11        I suppose, that she will, as an intelligent woman, no
    12        doubt, have asked herself whether these documents could be
    13        forgeries.  If she has reached a conclusion that they are
    14        not, and Mr. Bone has asserted -------
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do not think it would matter what she
    17        concluded about that because she says she never ever saw
    18        the documents at the time.
    19
    20   MR. RAMPTON:  No, but, my Lord, then if they are not, then
    21        plainly a solution ------
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But I cannot accept it from Mrs. Hovi that
    24        they are not.
    25
    26   MR. RAMPTON:  No, but a solution to the conundrum has to be
    27        found.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    30
    31   MR. RAMPTON:  It is possible, as I was going to say, as an
    32        intelligent woman, that she might have thought of one, but
    33        she has not, save in so far as she ------
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, save in so far as it has been explored
    36        today.  Yes.
    37
    38   MR. RAMPTON (To the witness):  Just so that we distinguish in
    39        our minds, Mrs. Hovi, between McKey's specification (which
    40        does not concern you) and science (which does), the
    41        critical temperature is 7 degrees, whatever the
    42        specification may be; is that right?
    43        A.  Well, that has been agreed as ------
    44
    45   Q.   It is the accepted standard?
    46        A.  Yes, that is the accepted standard.
    47
    48   Q.   Is that for all the organisms?
    49        A.  Well, as you remember from the chart that was shown in
    50        the court when I gave my evidence last time, there are 
    51        organisms that can grow under 7, and Salmonella is one of 
    52        them, but the growth is obviously very slow, and this is 
    53        not a scientific -- the 7 is not a scientific standard.  It
    54        is a political standard.
    55
    56   Q.   Is a?
    57        A.  It is a political standard.
    58
    59   Q.   A political standard?  You have ......
    60        A.  Well, it is a compromise between ......
 
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