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     1        I understood it.
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     3   MS. STEEL:   Right, OK.
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Multi-year list; that was the phrase.
     6
     7   MS. STEEL:   Right.  There is the list that Mr. Cesca referred
     8        to on several occasions -- sorry, the map of the kind of
     9        out of bound regions in Costa Rica.  Is that on the list
    10        point -- because he actually said that was in his
    11        possession.  In fact, he thought he had it with him, but he
    12        -- but Mr. Morris says he has already covered that,
    13        anyway.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So you want to add that to the documents to
    16        be discovered?
    17
    18   MS. STEEL:   Yes.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  I did say that in my application, I believe.  Well,
    21        I am convinced I did.
    22
    23   MS. STEEL:  The next thing I wanted to go on to was the matter
    24        about the yellow flashes and what Mr. Cesca had previously
    25        said; you wanted to be referred to that -- because of the
    26        changing of his evidence when Mr. Rampton got up and
    27        intervened.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, he did say something different; but
    30        before Mr. Rampton intervened, my recollection is, having
    31        re-read the transcript, he volunteered that he thought he
    32        might have given the wrong impression.
    33
    34   MS. STEEL:  That is not my recollection.  My recollection is
    35        that Mr. Rampton got up and said, "He did not say that",
    36        and then the witness then changed his mind about what he
    37        had previously been saying.  Actually, he made corrections
    38        earlier on in the day when he came back, but not about that
    39        particular point.  That was something that he just
    40        completely left standing, or did not indicate that it was
    41        something he wanted to change at all.
    42
    43        There is one reference on day 220, which is
    44        Friday, 23rd February of this year.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Give me the page reference.
    47
    48   MS. STEEL:   On page 16, line 29 -- there is line 17, which is
    49        about Londrina, and then on line 29 which says: "....that
    50        they would collect beef from the surrounding area up to 200 
    51        or 300 kilometres."  "That would be collected there to be 
    52        passed on to one of the meat packing plants -- take the 
    53        Bauru plant?"  The answer was: "Yes."  Then you
    54        asked: "Just so that I make sure I am not misunderstanding,
    55        if we look, for instance, at Pedro Gomes which is the
    56        yellow flash furthest to the north from Campo Grande?" "OK
    57        Pedro Gomes, yes."  You carry on: "Cattle are collected,
    58        let us say, from approximately a 200 kilometre radius --
    59        I only put it that way for the purposes of the question --
    60        and then what happens when they get to Pedro Gomes?"
 
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