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     1        re-reading stuff concerning Mr. Preston and that is a
     2        totally honest answer.  It was completely jam-packed and,
     3        as far as I was concerned, I had laid my cards on the
     4        table.  I said I wanted to make that inspection during that
     5        week, and that if it was brought forward, then I would need
     6        time to do that.  As far as I could see, you were saying
     7        that you understood that, but that if we did not get our
     8        schedule together, then it might be, you know, you had no
     9        choice, but to ask Mr. Rampton to call his publication
    10        witnesses.
    11
    12        We did get the schedule together.  Okay, there was a 1-day
    13        gap but that is not very much in the scale of things.  As
    14        far as we are concerned, if we are not in court, we will
    15        not waste any of that time.  Apart from anything else, you
    16        have suggested that we contact our nutrition witness.  So
    17        we could use that time to do that.
    18
    19        The Plaintiffs sent us a list of all their documents that
    20        they want to serve Civil Evidence Act notices on and they
    21        want us to comment on whether or not we want to agree to
    22        that.  We can get on with that, or I could actually use
    23        Thursday and Friday to go to the Plaintiffs' offices to
    24        view the publication documents although, having said that,
    25        they did send us a letter last night saying they do not
    26        know where all of them are.  I do not know if the situation
    27        on that has changed or not.
    28
    29        The other matter which I mentioned to Mr. Glen yesterday,
    30        which I had not intended to bring up until we had got
    31        advice, and I do not know whether it would have a bearing
    32        on this or not, but it might do.  After we received your
    33        draft judgment, or whatever it should be called, we did go
    34        and see a barrister about grounds for an appeal.  It was a
    35        junior barrister that we saw, and the barrister and a
    36        solicitor who, from time to time, have been helping us
    37        throughout the case were both away and we are due to be
    38        seeing them on Friday to discuss it.
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I would not hold up, whatever else one did, I
    41        would not hold up publication witnesses pending any appeal,
    42        at this stage.  You just have to work on the basis that the
    43        situation at the moment is that there has been an amendment
    44        to both the further amendment to the Statement of Claim,
    45        and an amendment to your Defence.  You would have to deal
    46        with the evidence on the basis that that is the situation.
    47
    48   MS. STEEL:   Well, okay.  I mean the main point is ----
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The same would apply if Mr. Rampton was 
    51        appealing against the leave to amend, which I have given 
    52        you.  I would say exactly the same thing to him. 
    53
    54   MS. STEEL:   The main thing is, is there really any great gain
    55        from going ahead?  I understand that there is a desire to
    56        press on, but I outlined the position about preparations at
    57        the end of last term.  The problems that we face if
    58        Mr. Carroll goes ahead, to me, they far outweigh the very
    59        little gain which would be made if he was called in terms
    60        of we save a day in court, or a day of court, in court
 
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