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     1        respect?
     2        A.  I do say it is about 1987; it could have been 86.
     3
     4   Q.   Or 85?
     5        A.  I do not think it was 85.  It was probably 86.
     6
     7   Q.   You are a bit hazy?
     8        A.  A bit hazy about the actual date that I first saw the
     9        leaflet complained of.
    10
    11   Q.   Do you remember the circumstances of how you became aware
    12        of it?
    13        A.  No, I think it was passed to us as being presented
    14        outside some of our restaurants.  It was put through on
    15        what they call an incident report form that this had been
    16        handed out, but then we had several  come in about late 86,
    17        87 time.
    18
    19   Q.   Do you give instructions out to all the branches then about
    20        what they should do if there is a picket of their store or
    21        leafleting of their store?
    22        A.  Yes.
    23
    24   Q.   What are those instructions?
    25        A.  The instructions are normally depending on the size of
    26        the picket, on the mood of the picketers, as to whether we
    27        call the police to assist us, or whether we deal with the
    28        matter ourselves; in other words, it is left very much to
    29        the judgment of the officer or the man in charge of the
    30        restaurant.  But his instructions would be any problems
    31        arising from a picket or a demonstration outside it would
    32        be to call the police and abide by their decision.
    33
    34   Q.   Right.  But what other steps, apart from calling the
    35        Police, are taken?
    36        A.  Well, obviously to ensure that the picketers do not get
    37        inside the restaurant and disrupt people while having their
    38        meals.
    39
    40   Q.   I am talking about in terms of obtaining copies of the
    41        leaflet, taking photographs of demonstrators?
    42        A.  If it is at all possible to take photographs of
    43        demonstrators (and it is not always), yes, I would like
    44        copies of photographs and I would like copies of any
    45        literature which is being handed out.
    46
    47   Q.   That is your instructions to the stores?
    48        A.  Yes.
    49
    50   Q.   Those are collated by you then, not collated regionally? 
    51        A.  Originally, they were collated by me, but now they are 
    52        collated regionally. 
    53
    54   Q.   When did that changeover take place?
    55        A.  When we became more regionalised, which would be about
    56         -- again my memory is not too clear on it -- about 1990,
    57        1991.
    58
    59   Q.   Then you kept files on all the pickets that had occurred,
    60        any photographs that were obtained and any leaflets that
 
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