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     1   Q.   Are there no cameras or screens in there?
     2        A.  No, there are some monitors in the room off to the left
     3        of that, but you cannot see it from there, from that angle.
     4
     5   Q.   But on occasions video footage has been taken from that
     6        room?
     7        A.  It has never been necessary to take video footage from
     8        that room.
     9
    10   Q.   You are saying it has never happened -- of the pickets?
    11        A.  No.
    12
    13   Q.   It has never happened?
    14        A.  No.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Look at photograph 16 (and the number may be
    17        a bit cut off if it is like mine), do you recognise the
    18        gentleman in the green coat with two cameras?
    19        A.  No, he is not one of mine, my Lord.
    20
    21   Q.   Or at (15), the man standing beside the plane tree with a
    22        camera?
    23        A.  He is not one of mine either.
    24
    25   MS. STEEL:   While we are looking at these photographs, in photo
    26        No. 2, the big white banner, behind that there is a man
    27        who, I believe, is from McDonald's?
    28        A.  He is one of the security men.
    29
    30   Q.   The Uni-Trust Security people?
    31        A.  Yes.
    32
    33   Q.   What about the man who is standing next to you on the step
    34        or slightly on the step above you or something?
    35        A.  I think he is the other one, I think.
    36
    37   Q.   From Uni-Trust Security?
    38        A.  I believe so, yes.
    39
    40   Q.   There is a better shot of him in photograph (7).
    41        A.  Yes, he would have been; he has got the security logo
    42        on his jacket.
    43
    44   Q.   The man in No. 21 standing up above the -----
    45        A.  That is one of the handymen that we employ.  I think he
    46        is just interested in what is going on.
    47
    48   Q.   Right.
    49        A.  That -- also in (21) is the other Uni-Trust man that
    50        was at the top of the steps. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Yes. 
    53        A.  The one on the right of the picture.
    54
    55   Q.   Yes.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you want the five minute break there?  We
    58        have to have it within the next five or 10 minutes.
    59
    60   MS. STEEL:   All right, yes.
 
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