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     2   Q.   You said in paragraph (8) of your statement that you said
     3        that paragraph (8) of your statement was correct, and that
     4        you identified myself and Mr. Gravett by description, not
     5        by photograph.  Whose description?  Who described us to
     6        you?
     7        A.  A member of the Animal Rights National Index.
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     9   Q.   Special Branch?
    10        A.  The Animal Rights National Index.
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    12   Q.   Is that Mr. Brendan O'Hara?
    13        A.  I have no idea what his name is.
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    15   Q.   You do not know what his name was.  Is that the man who you
    16        are standing next to in the photograph -- I will hand you a
    17        photograph up.  It is not a very good one -----
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    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Sorry, you will have to tell me what the
    20        Animal Rights National Index is.
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    22   THE WITNESS:  It could be, I do not know, I do not remember his
    23        face that well.  Would you like me to explain?
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    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let me look at the photograph.  (Handed to
    26        the learned Judge).
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    28   MS. STEEL:   Who asked him to attend the picket?
    29        A.  He came because he knew the picket was going to -- knew
    30        it was on that day.
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    32   Q.   You chatted to him?
    33        A.  Yes.
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    35   Q.   Was it before or during the demonstration that he gave you
    36        a description of myself and Mr. Gravett?
    37        A.  It was at the start and he -- in fact, he pointed you
    38        out.
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    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Should I know what the Animal Rights National
    41        Index is?  If it does not matter, I have no need to know,
    42        but if it might be of some significance, someone ought to
    43        tell me.
    44        A.  It is a branch of Police, my Lord, dealing with the
    45        Animal Liberation Front, anti-terrorist group from Scotland
    46        Yard.  It is formulated by Police from all over the country
    47        who contribute to a central body of Policemen dealing with
    48        it.
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    50   MS. STEEL:   Can I just say, for the record, I disagree with 
    51        that description of what they are. 
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    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why do you not put it to him if it is
    54        important?
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    56   MS. STEEL:  I do not know if it is important but as far as I am
    57        aware ---
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    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It may be of no significance.
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