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     1        A.  Well, I am talking about afterwards I did not think it
     2        was necessary to identify anybody else there.
     3
     4   Q.   Except for two days later when you said that to the
     5        President of the Company?
     6        A.  So -- yes.
     7
     8   Q.   So, let me just get this straight.  You are on a
     9        demonstration; you are Head of Security; your job is to
    10        monitor all the protests that are happening around the
    11        country, especially ones where there are photographs being
    12        taken, to find out the theme, pattern, main people, if they
    13        are travelling around the country, whatever; here you have
    14        a demonstration at the Headquarters; all the, you know,
    15        main suspects there in front of your eyes; you have with
    16        you someone from the Police information gathering  ------
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just hold on a moment.  Are all the main
    19        suspects there in front of his eyes?
    20
    21   MR. MORRIS:  Maybe, a lot them are likely to be there.
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have turned into a suspect and the one
    24        thing I have noted is you were not there.
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  It is not a secret.  I was not there.  (To the
    27        witness):  But the point was, so are you saying that you
    28        decided after that demonstration that you should be
    29        identifying all these people in due course?
    30        A.  I thought that I might need to identify these people in
    31        due course.  In the event, I decided that it was not
    32        necessary, it was a waste of my time, I had better things
    33        to do.
    34
    35   Q.   So, on the demonstration what you are saying is you were
    36        not trying to identify people at the demonstration, then
    37        you decided that you would try to identify people, you
    38        know, 48 hours later in this memo, and then a few days
    39        after that you decided that you would not identify those
    40        people?
    41        A.  That is right more or less, yes.
    42
    43   Q.   Is that how you generally conduct your business?
    44        A.  It depends entirely on what the circumstances are and
    45        how much weight I put on certain events, whether I decide
    46        to carry on -- the same as anybody else in business making
    47        decisions, circumstances change.
    48
    49   Q.   These photographs that were sent to you when there were
    50        pickets at various places, when you were trying to find out 
    51        if there is any common theme, individuals cropping up, that 
    52        kind of stuff, did you check after this demonstration at 
    53        the Headquarters, or even during, to see if any of the
    54        photographs linked up with other protests?
    55        A.  No.
    56
    57   Q.   You did not check?
    58        A.  No.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What do you mean, the same people were in
 
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