Day 237 - 18 04 96 - Page 41



     1        A.   Is that 3 or 4?
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   If you go into divider 2 there are numbers
     4        at the bottom of the pages and 41, if it is 41, it is TEC3,
     5        in fact.
     6
     7   MS. STEEL:   Yes, TEC3.
     8        A.   Yes, that is my writing.
     9
    10   Q.  That is your writing as well?
    11        A.   Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   Would they both have been done on the same day?
    14        A.   I have no idea.
    15
    16   Q.   You do not remember.  When did you start labelling the
    17        leaflets?
    18        A.   As far as my recollection goes, it was when I made my
    19        statement in 1993.
    20
    21   Q.   After that you started labelling leaflets that you
    22        collected?
    23        A.   As far as I remember, yes.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   When you say "labelled", are you suggesting
    26        that Mr. Carroll put on more than the TEC numbers?
    27
    28   MS. STEEL:  No.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Because I understand the sense of doing that
    31        at the time the statement is signed.
    32
    33   MS. STEEL:  I did not ask that, actually.  When did you put TC1
    34        and TC3 on it?
    35        A.   I do not recollect.  I assume it was probably when I
    36        did my statement in 1993.
    37
    38   Q.   Right.  Not when you ---
    39        A.  Collected.
    40
    41   Q.   -- first gained possession of the leaflets?
    42        A.   No.
    43
    44   Q.   So, does that mean there was a TC2?
    45        A.   Very possibly.
    46
    47   Q.   There is not one in the bundle.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Well, there is a TEC2.  You mean there is
    50        not a TEC2 written on it, do you? 
    51 
    52   MS. STEEL:   Actually, when I have been saying "TC" it has been 
    53        sounding like "TEC".  I am actually saying "TC", "T stop
    54        C".  (To the witness):  The "T stop C" that is written at
    55        the top, are you aware of a "T stop C2"?  It is not in the
    56        bundle.  Do you remember doing one?
    57        A.   No, I do not.
    58
    59   Q.   If those all were done at the same time -- well, "T stop
    60        C1" comes within the appendix TEC5.  Why should it be
 
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