Day 237 - 18 04 96 - Page 47

     1   MR. RAMPTON:  I am not going to arrange anything until I am told
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     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You had better tell me what the purpose of it
     5        is anyway.
     6
     7   MS. STEEL:  It is quite obvious what the purpose of it is.  We
     8        have pleaded that the Plaintiffs were participating in
     9        distribution of leaflets and the leaflet complained of, and
    10        the Plaintiffs are complaining about continuing
    11        distribution of leaflets subsequent to the service of the
    12        writ, which they are saying justifies them issuing leaflets
    13        nationwide to all their stores and various press releases.
    14        You know, it just puts a totally different light on it if
    15        the fact is that these leaflets are being distributed by
    16        their agents and it something that is pleaded.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you are saying that any of the people on
    19        the video, for instance, are people you think are an
    20        undercover person or someone you have not known for some
    21        time, I suggest you start by doing that.  I think the
    22        original video should be produced because there is a point
    23        of general principle, any party is entitled to see the
    24        original of anything which is produced.
    25
    26   MR. RAMPTON:  Of course.
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  For all I know, you might hear something else
    29        which is relevant, whether or not this is relevant, if you
    30        hear the best possible sound track.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  I am instructed this is the original.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I suggest you do is take it away -- that
    35        is the original?
    36
    37   MR. RAMPTON:  I am told it is, yes.
    38
    39   MS. STEEL:  I mean, I want to solve this problem and I prefer to
    40        solve it now.  It might help if Mr. Nicholson (sic) stands
    41        nearer to the television and the volume is turned down so
    42        it is not distorted.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Stand near the television, if you do not
    45        mind, please, Mr. Nicholson (sic).  Do not answer any
    46        questions from there, but if you would be so kind as to
    47        come and stand where you saw Mr. Hill standing a moment ago
    48        and then put it at whatever level of volume you want, Ms.
    49        Steel, and play it again.  I am completely bailing out of
    50        listening to this because my hearing is so indifferent that 
    51        I would not be able to tell anyway. 
    52 
    53                  (The video tape was again played)
    54
    55   THE WITNESS:    I do not recognize any voices.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:   No, that was not it.  It is just after this.
    58
    59           (The witness again listened to the video recording)
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