Day 249 - 14 May 96 - Page 29


     
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     2   Q.   So?
     3        A.  I saw Gravett there.
     4
     5   Q.   Sorry?
     6        A.  I saw Gravett there.
     7
     8   Q.   Yes.  Hold on.  Sorry.  When you say about half past 4, is
     9        that at the beginning of the picket or the end of the
    10        picket -- the middle, or what?
    11        A.  As I understand it, the picket started at four o'clock
    12        but I was not there.
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    14   Q.   OK.  So you saw Mr. Gravett?
    15        A.  Yes, you were still the only 2 I knew.  I knew of
    16        others by description and name, but I could not be sure.
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    18   Q.   What was Mr. Gravett doing?
    19        A.  When I first him he was just standing there.  He was
    20        not dress up as a cow, he was wearing ordinary clothes.  He
    21        was standing with a group of others.  There were people
    22        with banners, there were people with posters and there were
    23        people distributing leaflets.
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    25   Q.   Which leaflets?
    26        A.  I do not know.
    27
    28   Q.   You do not know which leaflets?
    29        A.  No.  We did get some together.  Terry Carroll took them
    30        to solicitors.
    31
    32   Q.   You could not see them?
    33        A.  No.
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    35   Q.   You could not see the leaflets people were handing out?
    36        A.  No.
    37
    38   Q.   Why was that?
    39        A.  Because I could not identify them.  I could see they
    40        were leaflets.
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    42   Q.   You said that when you first saw him he was not dressed as
    43        a cow.  Does that mean that he was later on?
    44        A.  No, it does not mean he was later on when I say he was
    45        not on this occasion dressed like a cow.
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    47   Q.   OK.  Did you ever go outside during the 1990 picket?
    48        A.  Yes, I think I probably did.
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    50   Q.   You walked round? 
    51        A.  Yes I did because we had a video camera on that 
    52        occasion. 
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    54   Q.   You were involved in that?
    55        A.  No, no.  I just walked out to see that they were
    56        videoing the proceedings.
    57
    58   Q.   So they were under your instructions with the videoing; you
    59        went out to see that they were filming?
    60        A.  Yes.  Yes, I am sure I had suggested to Terry Carroll

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