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Janitor, cook, nurse, secretary of the Treasury . . .dictator!

Posted by: Heraclitus on December 16, 1999 at 12:58:36:

In Reply to: No reason to expect that the college educated would endorse job rotation posted by Barry Stoller on December 16, 1999 at 10:53:37:

Job rotation is a good idea, and specialization is one of capitalism's salient features, so any revolution worth its salt must address this issue eventually. But one should never underestimate people's abililty to cooporate spontaneously, and the smaller the groups the more degree of cooperation. The President of Exxon is just that, the president. But the "president" of Julio's pizzaria is also the accountant, sales manager, vice-president of marketing, purchasing agent and janitor.

And roles? How about typical mother with young children? Janitor, cook, nurse, secretary of the Treasury . . .dictator! And when her kids get older she has to add drug czar to the list!

Under the right circumstances, peopl are happy to cooperate and they don't need to hear dictates about how to do so. Let's get rid of this corporatism under which we all suffer and THEN see what happens.

I'm not trying to be a wise guy, Barry, but I'm wondering why you're spending so much time on this issue. Is it, as you said before, to find out who's who before you risk your neck? Well, we're not on the front-lines of revolution just yet, and if you've ever been in a life-threatening situational in which demands quick, decisive action you know that all the harping on the Internet isn't going to tell you how people are going to behave in the thick of it.


: The more I push for job rotation (AKA participatory government), the more I get branded a fascist. Considering that fascism is fundamentally characterized by a rigid social division of labor as well as minority control of the state apparatus, this claim against job rotation is wholly ludicrous.

: Why do my proposals to end the social division of labor and to efface the distinctions between skilled work and unskilled work receive such violent opposition?

: One theory...

: Only 23% of the American population receive education at a Bachelor's level or above (Statistical Abstract of the United States 1996, table 243, p. 160).

: Only 22.4% of the American population have internet access (Statistical Abstract of the United States 1998, table 916, p. 573).

: Are these two groups the same?

: Most likely yes, these two groups are (for the most part) the same.

: It is apparent that MOST of you on this debate board are college-educated individuals who (by virtue of your education) either have or anticipate positions of skilled work---and double the wages of workers without college education (Statistical Abstract of the United States 1996, table 711, p. 462)---in the near future. It is obvious that your education will EXEMPT you from unskilled work.

: I submit this is why my proposals to abolish the social division of labor and to equalize incomes have been met with such virulent opposition.

: Concerning the procapitalist representatives here, I expected as much. As far as the so-called 'socialists' go, I guess whether it's a capitalist or a socialist world, you still want to make sure that you won't have to do any unskilled work.

: You'll leave THOSE JOBS for me.




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