|experience:||Investigator for firm hired by McDonald's|
The witness, working for an investigation company hired by McDonald's, spied on London Greenpeace at meetings. However the witness states that:
It did not seem as if Helen and Dave were particularly involved in the anti- McDonald's campaign, although there was not really enough discussion to give me a complete picture. I do not remember any anti-McDonald's activities being planned whilst I was there. I can't remember specifically anything Helen and Dave said.
I did not feel the anti-McDonald's campaign was a major issue. It was one of the issues, but not the central one. It certainly wasn't number one on the agenda. The agency painted a picture that London Greenpeace was set up to campaign against McDonald's but having attended the meetings it was obvious to me that wasn't the case.
I felt very uncomfortable doing that particular job. I found it very stressful going to the meetings and I did not like the deception, prying on people and interfering with their lives. I believe people are entitled to their views.
From 21 August 1989 to 29 June 1990 I was employed as Secretary/Personal Assistant to the Managing Director of Kings Investigation Bureau, Chancery House, 53/64 Chancery Lane, London WC2A 1QU ("KIB").
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1. From 21 August 1989 to 29 June 1990 I was employed as Secretary/Personal Assistant to the Managing Director of Kings Investigation Bureau, Chancery House, 53/64 Chancery Lane, London WC2A 1QU ("KIB"). Towards the end of this time the Managing Director asked me to attend meetings of London Greenpeace as an investigator. I normally did secretarial/administration work in the office but the MD needed more people to cover investigations and he asked me to do this. When I left KIB the MD asked me if I would continue to attend meetings of London Greenpeace for a while and I agreed to do so. I was paid for doing this. I was aware that McDonald's was the client for whom the investigations were being made.
2. The general practice at KIB was that the investigators submitted reports on a daily basis and the MD made a composite report from those which was sent to the client. The MD would dictate the composite reports to me which I then typed up. Most of the clients would be sent weekly composite reports.
3. I used the name Jan Goodman when attending the London Greenpeace meetings. I was employed by KIB in the name Frances Davidson which was my maiden name. During the course of the year I became ill, which was part of the reason that I left. I agreed to attend further London Greenpeace meetings after terminating my employment with KIB, but I got out of it as soon as possible. The last meeting I attended was in September 1990 after which I was told by the MD at KIB that writs had been served and I was no longer required.
5. Roy Pocklington was working for KIB as a full time investigator. I knew him as Tony. He never came to the meetings I was at. I knew Brian Bishop to be another investigator whom I think was freelance, but I am not sure about that. He didn't work in the office.
6. I believe that before I started with KIB Jack Russell had been in a managerial position. He may have been the Managing Director. I was told that he had had a heart attack. He wasn't working when I joined KIB. The MD I worked for had founded the firm 50 years before. He was 76 years old but very active and he had taken over the running of the office in Jack Russell's absence.
7. I attended some of the London Greenpeace meetings with Michelle Hooker who was also working for KIB on a freelance basis. She used the name Shelley at meetings. She was not a permanent employee of the office. She was self employed, and was an ex-policewoman. Shelley didn't come into the office on a regular basis. We would meet at the office and then go to the meetings together. She had a black BMW. We parked near Euston and walked to the meetings.
8. I attended 2 or 3 meetings at the office in Caledonian Road and, I think, 2 meetings at Endsleigh Street. I made reports on the meetings I attended.
9. I was given instructions to attend the meetings and look out for anything about McDonald's. I was told to describe places and people, to give the names and numbers of people attending and to report generally on what was discussed. I made notes after the meetings. I was asked to particularly listen out for anything said about McDonald's, but to generally report about everything that went on at meetings.
10. I was told to look out for certain individuals who were considered to be the core members of the group. This included Paul, Helen and Dave, and I think maybe Jonathon and Jane as well. I recall mentioning Paul Gravett in reports, that he was present at meetings etc. I was asked to note anything they said or did about McDonald's. McDonald's wasn't on the agenda much to be discussed, in fact I think I was disappointed it wasn't discussed more.
11. I do not remember seeing a six page leaflet about McDonald's. I can recall A5 pale green and yellow anti- McDonald's leaflets. I helped myself to the group's leaflets, and handed any McDonald's leaflets in to the MD with my report. I never took any letters about the McDonald's campaign.
13. It did not seem as if Helen and Dave were particularly involved in the anti- McDonald's campaign, although there was not really enough discussion to give me a complete picture. I do not remember any anti-McDonald's activities being planned whilst I was there. I can't remember specifically anything Helen and Dave said. I remember Helen coming in late on a couple of occasions. The meetings started at 8.00pm and Helen came in around 9.15pm. I never took the minutes of the meetings which I attended. I recall it was thrown open to volunteers to take the minutes in a red book. I recall that the agenda was passed around and everyone wrote down what they wanted to discuss. There was no chair, and no serious control. They were not formally controlled meetings, they were open discussions amongst all members. It was often difficult to determine when one item was finished with and the next was started.
14. I remember stuffing envelopes in the office during the course of a meeting. The whole group was doing this. I don't recall specifically what was being put into the envelopes. People were also asked to volunteer for various jobs. I offered to answer a letter, it was not about McDonald's. I was not told to put any leaflets in with it. I took it to show willingness to get involved with the group. I can't remember what I did with the letter. I also volunteered to become involved with the creche at the Fayre. KIB did not expect me to get fully involved as I was doing it as a favour.
15. I did not think there was anything wrong with what the group was doing.
|date signed:||15th March 1996|
|status:||Appeared in court|
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