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Or so sayeth a foolish mortal

Posted by: MDG on December 04, 1999 at 00:21:46:

In Reply to: A gathering of the Gods... posted by Frenchy on December 03, 1999 at 21:14:38:

: MDG: 2) They lose the support of mainstream society, and rightfully so.

: : Qx: Maybe you can explain this one a little better. Has it occurred to you that the instances
: of violence actually serve as a diversion from the other protests going under way against the
: WTO?

: That has absolutely occurred to me, which is why I was dismayed to see those idiots in black
: garb running around breaking windows. In the cause closest to my heart, animal rights, you
: have millions of thoughtful activists, who engage in countless thoughtful acts of protest, but all
: it takes is one idiot to mail a razor-blade laden envelope to a vivisector, and bingo, the animal
: rights movement is labelled a terrorist movement, and to hell with the issues. Pisses me off
: more than you can know.

: If mainstream society (US society that sees the boss as buddy) doesn't support the
: anti-WTO protests then they're goddamn fools.

: Yes, or to be charitable, woefully ignorant (by choice and/or design).

: It's going to affect everybody in a bad way. It ranges from farming, worker's rights and
: much, much more. The world doesn't have time for US mainstream society to support
: anti-WTO protests. If Americans (especially pseudo-conservative pro-capitalists) want to
: think that's all much ado about nothing then they will learn their lesson. It's that simple.

: Agreed. What tickles me is that anyone who supports big business, but is not themselves
: rich, is a fool who will only be hurt by his own political stance.

: : MDG: I know the damned WTO is a weapon, but a meeting of WTO reps, all sitting in a
: room and talking, does not have the immediate violence of police beating union organizers, or
: protesters breaking McDonald's windows, and like it or not, people react to immediate
: violence first, and only consider the indirect violence of sedate corporate meetings in the
: absence of anything more fiery.

: : Qx: And that's the problem. If guys the likes of Frenchy, Joel Jacobson, Stuart Gort had
: much capacity for critical thinking in regards to capitalism then delusional pro-capitalist rants
: would have much less of an impact on maintream American society. Keep in mind that
: there's another problem to the violence that the WTO is about to render legal globally. It's
: long-term class warfare by the rich against the poor and the resident pro-capitalists here will
: just love it for the sake of personal ego stroking. That's how people react to long-term
: violence. Thay rationalize the indirect violence of sedate corporate meetings in the absence of
: anything more fiery.

: And in the end, all but a tiny minority will suffer, including the Frenchy Gorts. And who
: knows, the human race may even succeed in wiping itself out by raping the earth beyond
: repair. If that happens, I'll mourn, but only for the animals.

: Everybody is simply blind to the realities of the world except one guy who puts animal life above human life and his pal.
: I suspect their both gradute students. You can't be this stupid, or delusional, w/o training.

Smug Frenchy, basing all your blather on false assumptions. We're having a discussion on an important topic, and you're heckling from the sidelines without adding anything intelligent.

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