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Posted by: Piper on January 31, 19100 at 12:55:18:

In Reply to: (silly) issues posted by Stoller on January 30, 19100 at 20:42:55:

: : So no death penalty is a 'means to an end' eh stoller?

: I said the absence of the death penalty would be strategic for class struggle, not the other way around.

Piper: That's what i just said stoller.

: : 1) That shows a neglect of the moral issues involved.

: Morals, like rights, are not absolute and ahistorical.

: Like ideology, both morals and rights follow the material conditions and social relations of an epoch. For example, during times of war, many rights are suspended---and morals along with them. This demonstrates that both are social and historical constructs.

Piper: So you pay morality no heed eh stoller? Ever read anthing besides Marx/Hegel?

: : 2) Do you think the masses baying for blood would constite a good society (even if it was democratic).

: 'Baying for blood'? I'm not sure where you came up with this one---your head, perhaps?

Piper: derived it from the fact you said the death penalty could be institued 'democratically'.

You arrogant schmuck. I won't bother posting to you again.

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