: Fair enough. My point still stands. Whatever hierarchy might exist as a result of property is not imposed on us by anything other than the facts of existence: a world of scarce resources.
: This goes for you too, Lark.
That is very simple Dogma, I could just write something stupid like the state ownership of industry and property is necessary to avoid the notion of infinite growth when there is only finite resources, time and again and be done with it.
However I realise there are no absolutes, I'm not wedded to ideology other than Humanism which doesnt set up absolutes 'musts', 'prerequisites' or 'conditions' for a 'free order', while I refer to my social and political creed as Socialist/Socialism that is merely to provide constrast with anti-humanist positions.