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Socialism is not about violence and hatred.

Posted by: Lark on June 30, 1999 at 21:07:24:

In Reply to: No Comrade. posted by Red Deathy on June 29, 1999 at 15:04:18:

: I'm no comrade of yours.

RD I dont think that's the right approach.

: :It is a recognition that the socialist revolution needs action.

It does but action without reason is idiocy. Besides that, what action? Attending a Trot rally or demonstration? Harping party lines that interest no one? I could on I wont but I hope your not advocating violence in your impatience.

: Marx recognised teh revolution needed action, thats what the IWMA was. We do act, we prosyletise, we build and campiagn, and that all we can do. In making teh vanguard the world-historical agent, Lenin was nearer to Hegel than he was Marx.

Or was it Machavelli that Lenin was closer to.

: :Laissez faire socialism does not com about, it is defeated by inequality. Your organisation has fed upon the death of crypto-communist countries but now sits back and waits.

I wouldnt be sure of that but party politics isnt really easily to gauge any way.

: Who said anything about laissez-Faire (nice tag-phrase, must be very easy to dismiss all opposition that way, might I also suggest 'petit-bourgeois', thats worked well in the past as well.). We do not wait, we work, and have been working, calling for an immediate revolution- its up to teh working class to heed, we will not, unlike others, sublimate our frustration into minority and authoritarian action.

Here, here RD.

: : You find the use of power over the sick capitalist animals to be wrong? Are you a socialist?

Socialism is not about violence and hatred.

: Strangely, Marx never hated the Capitalists thus, look to his Defense of the Paris Commune, he notes how human the communards were, a Leninist would just have justified slaughter. I am against Vanguards leading workers to slaughter, and then sluaghtering them themselves. Such authoritarian behaviour cannot bring about the revolution.

: : Krondstadt is an aberation, it is capitalism rearing its vile head and creating change. That is no to be blamed upon Scientific Socialism.

Have you studied the details of Kronstadt, even to strengthen your own argument it is worth checking out these sources and remaining open minded.

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