- Capitalism and Alternatives -

Deary me, yours sincerely

Posted by: Gee ( si ) on August 20, 1999 at 10:51:50:

In Reply to: Deary me... posted by Red Deathy on August 19, 1999 at 15:58:02:

: You have a right to prevent them poisoning you in the first place, through proper public regulation...

Them poisoning me? How do they force the poison down me? Whilst it seems most reasonable, how is this not assuming guilt prior to it being established in action?

: Another way of putting it- requirements are to be guaged by actual reality, not by a set of standards raised above reality. See my other Yacht post.

see also

: Most unreasonable behaviour can be seen to ahve an ultimately reasonable cause, plus reason is a quality that comes from lived structures, etc. In a reasonable society, people are more likely to be reasonable.

As long as they think its reasonable.

: OK, but should a toy maker who doesn't like Black people be allowed to enact such racism? If they are the communities toy maker, producing to satisfy the demand of teh community, then they should make their work freely avaliable to all, if they want to, in their spare time, as a hobby, make toys...

No choice for the toy maker. Whether he disfavors blacks or favors his families children his choices are being dictated by a strict system which explicitly denies him a choice is disposing his individual skills and treats them and him as it would iron ore reserves - as a community resource for the use of.

: Why? If I don't think every other human being is capable of rational and sensible decision making, why should I assume I am different?

You can test your rationality. if one person believes he can fly an you do not - the more rational belief is demonstrable by test.

: No, I suspect don't all I know is my own history, and my own memories, retroactively contruscting a model of self as I would with strangers.

Far more complete and specific to your brain and sensory inputs. You will only know others by experiencing them via yourself. Your self knowledge is primary, knowledge of others follows this.

: Most peopel I know see work as something aside from their won values, as something seperate from their "real" life, as a barrier and condition upon being able to pursue their own goals.

We know different 'most people' then, and I wouldnt even say I was in what you might call a privilaged class.

: If someone wants to make toys for friends, well and good, but if someone agrees to produce toys for the community, then there can be no exceptions.

And hence he agrees to make toys for those whith whom he wishes to deal.

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