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Posted by: Gee ( si ) on October 12, 1999 at 13:53:28:

In Reply to: What debate? posted by Samuel Day Fassbinder on October 12, 1999 at 12:26:20:

: SDF: I see. Force is only force if it is certified to exist by a certified libertarian or anarchocapitalist.

No its defined and absolute. Ohh, thats so annoying - things being defined and absolute - its just so rigid.

If force can mean anything, and each meaning is equally valid then there is no point in the word. Or any word. You can look at a situation and claim 'hey, no force here' and imagine that the passing of that subjective perception is equal to any other - that there is nothing actually happening. subjectivists eh? Always scorning objectivity until they get near the edge of a cliff.

: To quote the immortal Gee:

This is the idiotic belief that if two libertarians agree on something then that agreement somehow invalidates indivualism;

I'm glad you appear to agree. Or did you imagine this countered my point?

: ps I looked at the link you provided. The "specifics" of how school is to be taught in Iowa state schools, as they are stated, are so vague that the private school I went to in California can be said to meet them.

I'm glad yopu realize they are vaige. That means that at any time the state can visit the school and demand change, or can leave it alone - its vaige so as to allow a broad (loose) interpretation. There are no actual standards - what if schools met them? Then the state would loose its sword of damocles power.

It is with vaige laws and subjective rules that a state governs, with general decrees whose precise detail is ledt to 'interpretation'. Precision, defined boundaries and exact standards are relatively easy to accomidate. They also allow you the fantasy that the content and delivery of education is somehow *not* heavily influenced by the state, or at least, to continue with the fantasy that the state represents 'the people'.

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